Sierra Club Takes on Hunters: Will SAM wake up and stop slee

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Jon Reisman
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Sierra Club Takes on Hunters: Will SAM wake up and stop slee

Roger,Maybe now is the time for Maine Sportsmen and women to unite for a common cause and start a new organization? What do you think? Do you think anyone might be interested?Tony

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Sierra Club Takes on Hunters: Will SAM wake up and stop slee

The Sierra Club, the nation's largest and most influential environmental group, has long peacefully co-existed with the nation's consumptive outdoorsmen, hunters and fishermen. The venerable and historic organization has always professed to see the historic and biological aspects of managing wild game populations via hook and bullet. In fact, that basic thought was probably instrumental in the Club's refusal to yield to anti-hunting interests in board elections last spring. But two moves by the Club this year have cast doubt as to the future of that sentiment. In June the Sierra Club attacked several land access issues that were favorable to hunters and the legislators that advanced them in a move that was basically fashioned around a 1996 magazine article. Why would it dig eight years back into history if it weren't spoiling for a fight? The National Rifle Association -- admittedly never a Sierra Club fraternity brother -- took a couple of broadsides and some of its board members where personally named in the attack. The NRA traditionally doesn't turn the other cheek, and returned the favor when President Kayne Robinson addressed the annual conference of the Outdoor Writers Association of America in Spokane, Washington. Shortly thereafter the OWAA Board of Directors took it upon itself to issue a letter of condemnation to the NRA (Sierra Club and NRA are both Supporting Members of OWAA), but not to the Sierra Club. All hell then broke loose. Nearly 500 OWAA active members signed a petition demanding that the board rescind its vote and letter but the board stood fast. Dozens of active members and supporting members left the 100-year-old, 2,000-member organization in protest and hundreds more are expected to not renew their memberships in 2005. The fight was outlined in major media, making the front page in the Washington Post and other major newspapers. Then came last month's seemingly annual dogfight in New Jersey where the state's Supreme Court this time upheld the natural resources director's right to refuse to issue permits for a bear hunt -- a hunt that deemed necessary by the wildlife board. The hunt was allowed in 2003, after significant legal protest, but was stopped at the state's highest level this year. Turns out that the state's Chapter of the Sierra Club was a prime mover in the legal battle to stop the hunt. The hunt would have no impact on the environment; the argument was the perceived cruelty of killing bears to manage the population as opposed to advancing contraception studies. [url=http://www.pressconnects.com/today/sports/stories/sp121404s136072.shtml]web page[/url]

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If I have said it once, I have said it many times. George Smith has got to go. His leadership (or lack thereof) is doing great harm to the Sportmen and women of the State of Maine.Tony Bessey
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(Won't rejoin until George is gone)[ 12-14-2004: Message edited by: Tony Bessey ]

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quote:If I have said it one, I have said it many times. George Smith has got to go. His leadership (or lack thereof) is doing great harm to the Sportmen and women of the State of Maine.
Tony Bessey
Former SAM Member
(Won't rejoin until George is gone)

And what does this have to do with the subject of the post???

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Mr. Yencha,The post header references SAM and its stance with the Greenies. In all actuality, it is George Smith who runs everything at SAM. His so called bosses on the Board of Directors and so called officers are nothing but hand picked ninnies that allow him to run wild. SAM’s most recent alliance with Ed and Kay Pineau has cost law abiding gun owners dearly.Despite SAM members annual insistence on holding the line on gun owners rights in cases where a temporary restraining order is issues, George, taking the advice of the Pineau's, caved on that issues with Steven Rowe and Governor Baldacci in order to get some General Fund money for the DIF&W.It is now law in Maine that you must surrender you firearms to either the police or a friend if you are the subject of a temporary restraining order. Did I mention, or did you know, that anyone could take out a temporary restraining order against someone for any reason without due process? That is directly in violation of the Constitutions of both the USA and Maine. As a guide, can you tell me how much general fund money DIF&W got out of that cave? My estimate is pretty accurate when I say zero!Now we have non-consumptive wildlife users wanting to have access to the management making decisions of the DIF&W even though they don't pay anything for that management. Do you think the bear thing is going away? Do you think George (in the name of SAM) won't sell you out again?It started with guns, where else it is going, time will only tell. I can only say that your business as a Guide is in serious danger as long as SAM continues to be run by the likes of Mr. Smith under the advice of Ed and Kay Pineau.John Reisman knows that George is playing with fire and is just pointing out that SAM is in bed with the wrong people. I simply feel that this problem stems from the leadership of a tyrant. Get ready for things to go from bad to worse in your business and when it is all over and you are out of a job, remember one thing. George Smith will still have his job.Tony[ 12-14-2004: Message edited by: Tony Bessey ]

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SAM has been making war on Maine's private landowners ever since George Smith jumped on the government land band wagon. You can't compromise with the environazis. Compromise with them goes only one way. We never win. Sportsmen never win. I was a charter member of SAM back in 73 or 74. Can't remember which. SAM was a good organization back in the beginning, but they got compromised by the money just as Ducks Unlimited and Trout Unlimited did. Those organizations were fine advocates for sportsmen at one time. Those days are gone forever. What Maine needs is a good organization like Traditional Maine Sportsmen to work with landowners and DIFW. There are still some good folks in DIFW.

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I agree with Tony and Roger on this one. George Smith is bad news.

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