Snowe 'Deeply Disappointed' with Health Reform Vote
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Landmark health bill clears hurdle in Senate
Opponents of a public option join other Democrats to vote 60-39 to begin weeks of floor debate.
By SHAILAGH MURRAY and PAUL KANE, The Washington Post November 22, 2009
Sen. Olympia Snowe said she was deeply disappointed with the vote and that a "political line was drawn in the sand."
"So let the tone we set for this unprecedented debate rise to the level of the problem we have a responsibility to solve," Snowe said.
...Democrats...conceded that the vote represents the end of the beginning, not the other way around.
Above all, the Democratic caucus remains bitterly divided over a government insurance option.
http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=297693&ac=PHnws
If Sen. Snowe voted No on a motion to proceed, it is highly unlikely that she will vote "yes' on the Reid proposal.
The big story here - is that she, along with other moderate republicans stuck together, and the so-called "moderate democrats" all caved. It is an excellent reminder on why bi-partisanship is a farce for the the left - and is only relevant when republicans agree with them. There are no moderates on the D side, only opportunists.
I think Snowe deserves some kudos for her no vote.
tardus...
Agree 100%. Thank you, Senator Snowe.
This illustrates that a moderate Republican is better than a Democrat -- any Democrat.
Does anyone really think a Congressman Adam Cote would have stood up to Democrat leadership and opposed the health care bill?
Snowe is just waiting to see what she is offered for her vote, she will vote yes in the end just as Collins will.
If Sen. Snowe voted No on a motion to proceed, it is highly unlikely that she will vote "yes' on the Reid proposal.
I disagree. The easiest NO vote is the one made when YES is certain. When, during debate, it became clear the DEMs had reached the magic 60 needed for cloture, that freed Snowe to vote NO, thus helping to shore up the GOP position from which it hopes to bargain away certain aspects of the bill. However, her earlier support for Baucus, along with her public statements, seems to intimate that Snowe will support some form of health insurance "reform."
IIUC, any amendment will need 60 votes to kill a philibuster, while the final vote will only require a majority. I tend, then, to doubt that much of substance will change in the bill. Further, I suspect Snowe will vote for final passage, lest she be said to have blocked reform, something that would be used against her to great effect in the next election.
My biggest problem with the bill, and thus with Snowe and/or Collins if they support it, is not the public option, nor even the cost. The most terrifying thing about the bill is the encroachment on personal liberty it makes by FORCING all Americans to buy some form of health insurance.
Nice so far however the only thing that matters is the Rinos final vote .
"Snowe is just waiting to see what she is offered for her vote, she will vote yes in the end just as Collins will."
Susan Collins and her staff have made it clear evry time they have discussed the issue that they oppose everything in the dems bill. Susan will not be voting for it. Olympia and her staff have made it clear that the public option is a no go. She will not be voting for a bill with any hint of a public option. I think you will see that they will be true to their word on this.
Sad to say, our only real hope of defeating this bill, is for Senator Byrd to die.
Steven Scharf
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If Byrd dies, the Democrat governor will appoint a Democrat replacement.
I meant to say, it would slow them down.
Steven Scharf
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I thought Olympia would go for a public option if there was a "trigger". You may be right about Susan but I will wait until the vote, I still say she will cave.
She may be 'deeply disappointed' but she will vote for it in the end if the bribe is big enough...enough media love, enough A-list parties, enough perks from the administration....
If Sen. Snowe voted No on a motion to proceed, it is highly unlikely that she will vote "yes' on the Reid proposal.
Bull! The administration did not need her vote...they bought the Blue Dogs..wait and see if they lose any of those Blue Dogs as a result of voter rebellion at home....Reid will come offering lucre and Snowe will do what she always does....sell out her party and country.
The two moderate Republican senators from Maine, Susan M. Collins and Olympia J. Snowe, both say Senator Harry Reid, the majority leader, reached out to them after he unveiled the Senate measure, encouraging them to bring forward their ideas and concerns.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/23/health/policy/23health.html?_r=1
Twas just weeks before Christmas and what do you know
Senate Democrats are once again praying for Snowe.
They won 60 votes to start the debate
But they're back to square one and the just have to wait.
Wait for Blue Dogs like Nelson and Lincoln
Who say a public option would mean the economy sinkin'.
Wait for Joe Lieberman who says it won't pass
And hope Mary Landrieu can change her mind fast.
The Republican votes right now total zero
But a trigger could make one woman a hero.
The moderate who hails from the land way up north
Could save Harry Reid's Christmas with a deal she brought forth.
Urging government plans for when private ones fail
To think: both sides happy, can both sides prevail?
At this point no compromise looms within sight
That means after Thanksgiving it's on with the fight.
Enjoy your turkey and know we'll be here
To help make this tough topic just a little more clear.
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This press release is the beginning of the effort to decry the negative effects of "partizanship" and the need to work with our friends across the aisle to form a healthcare solution for America.
Now it is virtually certain she will vote "yes" on final passage. Any theories who the other turncoats will be?