stimulus bill contains gun control legislation??

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Traci G
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from an email...........

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45&tab=summary

Some of the highlights of the law:
* Firearms may only be owned by those possessing a valid license issued by the federal Attorney General. This license
will contain the licensee's photograph, thumb print, address, and a unique license number. Possession of a firearm without a license would constitute a federal crime.

* Firearms may only be sold by federal firearms licensees to other license holders. This would put an end to person-to-person firearm sales.

* Firearms must be stored locked in a safe. If you have children, you may not be allowed to store weapons loaded, even in a safe. Failure to comply with guidelines on storage would result in the loss of your license.

* You must purchase the license for $25, payable with your application, directly to the Attorney General. There is no time limit or "shall-issue" clause.
The Attorney General can simply ignore your request (and take your money).

* The bill is ex-post facto; this means that once the bill is passed and enacted, the laws will apply to guns you already own, as well as ones you will purchase in the future. This means that if you are a law abiding gun owner today, you will still have to get a license in order to avoid having your firearms confiscated.

* The law establishes a national database which tracks all firearms sales.This creates a national database of gun owners.

* Failing to update your address information, or otherwise notify the issuing office of your firearms license when you move, would constitute a felony.

* In addition to the current requirement for background checks with the NCIS when purchasing a firearm on an ATF form 4473, there would be an additional requirement to check with the Attorney General's office to ensure that your license was still valid.

* Possession of a firearm by a minor, being anyone under 18, even under your supervision, would become illegal.

After reading the proposed law in its entirety, you can also research the Nazi Weapons Law of 1938. They bear a striking resemblance.

Mike G
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At some point in the not to distant future, maybe a nanosecond from now, Americans may consider that their elected officials have broken their oaths to uphold the constitution. If our elected officials clearly continue to not fulfill their oath to the constitution, why should we as citizens, who believe in our unalienable rights as enumerated in the bill of rights, not be justified in removing the scoundrels from office?

Because big daddy says sit down and eat your oatmeal?

pmh
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Most Americans aren't that smart, or we wouldn't be in quite so deep - we even might have our heads above water rather than up some politico's posterior. "Survivor" may transform from some quasi-fantasy soft-core soap opera into the real thing. Big Daddy couldn't grow oats if you handed him a hoe! :wink:

Wilson
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So, does anyone know if this stuff is in the bill or not?

Punk
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I searched for the term 'firearm' in the online text that I had and it turned up nothing.

That is not to say that I had the full, final document (I think it was 600 or so pages).

Wilson
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Thanks Punk. I have to believe that our Rep. from the 2nd district would have voted no if this stuff was included.

jeffr
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HR 45 is a separate bill from the so called stimulus. It's still out there waiting. It's been referred to the House Committee on Crime , Terrorism and Homeland Security, and is waiting for a hearing. It currently has no co-sponsors and most of the "experts" say it isn't going anywhere too soon as a stand-alone bill.

It's probably more likely that bits and pieces of it will get slipped into other bills. Our so called representatives will support lots of things as part of a "compromise" or "omnibus" bill that they might not otherwise support.

Bigshooter
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Naw. I just reread the 2nd Amendment and the Maine version, Article 1 Section 16. That crap is illegal under both. Bigshooter don't play that. Illegal laws are kind of silly, don't you think? :lol:

Mike G
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GOA send a letter to members stating that a provision in the Stimulus bill allowed computerization of medical records.

That computerization, i believe was mandatory, could lead to abusing the mental defect prohibition of our firearms law. The veterans disarmament act of sorts Post traumatic syndrome, hospitalization in a mental hospital for a minor breakdown etc all would be computerized and would be more easily accessed by all and might lead to prohibition in an insta-check purchase etc.

That was the only issue raised by GOA on the stimulus package

Mark Turek
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Hey Mike G, in light of that previous post ("At some point in the not to distant future, maybe a nanosecond from now, Americans may consider..."), did you happen to see the Glenn Beck Show (FOX) a few nights back? It was about that exact topic. He ran out of time, but it sounded like he was going to discuss it again in the near future.