The story that refuses to go away, Is Obama a US Citizen?

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wv_republican
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Liberals hoped it would be laid to rest, once and for all after the coronation in January, but a Federal Judge just reopened the issue.

A U.S. Army Reserve major from Florida scheduled to report for deployment to Afghanistan within days has had his military orders revoked after arguing he should not be required to serve under a president who has not proven his eligibility for office. His attorney, Orly Taitz, confirmed to WND the military has rescinded his impending deployment orders. "We won! We won before we even arrived," she said with excitement. "It means that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means that the military has directly responded by saying Obama is illegitimate – and they cannot fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!"

"Barack Hussein Obama, in order to prove his constitutional eligibility to serve as president, basically needs only produce a single unique historical document for the Plaintiff’s inspection and authentication: namely, the 'long-form' birth certificate which will confirm whether Barack Hussein Obama was in fact born to parents who were both citizens of the United States in Honolulu, Hawaii, in or about 1961," explains the complaint.

Taitz said she will attend the hearing to amend the temporary restraining order to an injunction because more members of the military have joined the cause.

"We are going to be asking for release of Obama's records because now this completely undermines the military. It revoked this order, but it can come up with another order tomorrow. It can come up with orders for other people," she said. "Am I going to be flying around the country 1,000 times and paying the fees every time they issue an order?"

Taitz said the issue "must be resolved immediately," and she will continue working to ensure Obama proves he is eligible for office.

"We're going to be asking the judge to issue an order for Obama to provide his vital records to show he is legitimately president," she said. "We're going to say, we have orders every day, and we'll have revocations every day. This issue has to be decided."

She said there cannot be any harm to the president if he is legitimately holding office.

"If he is legitimate, then his vital records will prove it," Taitz said. "If he is illegitimate, then he should not have been there in the first place."

Asked what this decision means for every other serviceman who objects to deployment under a president who has not proven he is eligible for office, Taitz responded:

"Now, we can have each and every member of the military – each and every enlistee and officer – file something similar saying 'I will not take orders until Obama is legitimately vetted.'"

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104009

The military will finally force Obama to release the records he went to Hawaii to put under court seal during his campaign "vacation." This should get interesting.

The other thread is locked, but this is new information that should send some fur flying.

Average Joe
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Does this mean that John3:16 and HighlanderJuan will be soon rejoining us?

mirgliP
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Just make sure you post the terms of the imprisonment the birthers get for refusing to obey an order to deploy. The orders were not promulgated by Obama, but by their command authority. Anybody that can even spell law school would know they have no standing to challenge Obama's Presidency. I think the question of vetting was made moot by Justice Roberts administering the oath of office, don't you think?

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Obama's Birth Certificate and Other Urban Myths:

JIMV
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The latest is that the call up orders have been canceled, no reason given, so the case dies....

Michelle Anderson
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So the White House now finds it easier to rescind the Major's orders than to produce the birth certificate? Interesting...

charlie neville
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Conspiracy theories never die, they just fade away.... For a while only, apparently! Haven't we suffered through enough of Obama's birth certificate crap?

charlie

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Quote:
Conspiracy theories never die, they just fade away...

Or are proven and generally ignored by those who are afraid that realizing that corrupt things are going on obligates them to act.

charlie neville
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Michelle, you might want to read, reread, and then read again mirgliP post at 3:15.

Attorney Orly Taitz is trying to make a name for herself. She will! Primarily as an idiot!

charlie

Michelle Anderson
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I was addressing your [in my opinion] erroneous statement about conspiracy theories.

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Great article here about Orly Taitz:
Meet Orly Taitz, Queen Bee of People Obsessed With Barack Obama's Birth Certificate

Aside from World Net Daily, more traditional conservative media sources—not to mention politicians—have condemned the birth-certificate question as a waste of time. In January, talk-show host Michael Medved classified Taitz and the other eligibility attorneys as “crazy, nutburger, demagogue, money-hungry, exploitive, irresponsible, filthy conservative imposters.” Taitz sent him a letter demanding a retraction.

And fellow birther Philip Berg doesn't seem to respect her much either.

For Berg, [this] offered a chance for him to finally say what he’d been thinking about Taitz: She’s a menace and possibly an Obama plant. “When you really look at what she has accomplished over the past couple of months, I think it’s nothing,” Berg says. “She’s hurt the cause. I suggest she goes back to practicing dentistry.” Berg says the headlines she generates, about ambushing Supreme Court justices and allegations of government-perpetrated hacking, only serve to make the eligibility movement look nuts.

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Gawd! And just as I was starting to sleep through the night again!

Lord, save me from infidels and wackos, and bless the starving pygmies with sustenance! Amen.

charlie neville
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Michelle, this is little but an extension of the previous, now locked, Obama birthing thread. He's been sworn in as president. Get over it... time to move on to something new.

charlie

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Michelle, this is little but an extension of the previous, now locked, Obama birthing thread. He's been sworn in as president. Get over it... time to move on to something new. charlie

The possibility that it was done illegally doesn't bother you?

The systematic destruction of this country by his administration and his cohorts in the House and Senate don't bother you?

His repeated demonstration of his ineptness and the utter lack of respect he both gives and receives don't bother you?

The fact that through his "leadership" our grandchildren and THEIR children will be paying off the Communist Chinese long after we're dead doesn't bother you?

No?

Fine, then by all means, Move On. (capitals intentional)

Me, I'm going fight, kvetch, argue, prod, poke and stir until he's either thrown out or voted out.

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I'm glad this guy won't be representing the US in Afghanistan.

He's spun a bearing. I hope the other Birthers in the military follow his conviction and get discharged.

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PHPaul wrote:

The possibility that it was done illegally doesn't bother you?

The systematic destruction of this country by his administration and his cohorts in the House and Senate don't bother you?

His repeated demonstration of his ineptness and the utter lack of respect he both gives and receives don't bother you?

Kinley writes:

Exactly why we as a nation need the indictment of Bush-era functionaries.

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I agree there is nothing one can do regardless of his birthplace. That said, the idea that a Constitutional requirement can be shifted aside to keep a President in office who is might not be legal is spooky.

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Jim, what's really spooky is that if this had been a story about a soldier saying he couldn't follow an order from Bush because he was a war criminal, it would have made the front page of the NY Times.

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I think that few have the intestinal fortitude to sacrifice career and retirement for their principals.
Even though a reservist, he is losing much. Michael New was subjected to court martial a few years back because he
couldn't in good conscience wear UN blue and take orders from non US officials.
Maybe Barry Satoro and his handlers are trying to sort out who will drink the Kool Aid and who might not.

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Conspiracy theories only exist where secrecy is involved . What is so hard about the man showing his birth certificate to a panel of experts for authentication and then to the people to put this to rest . He is after all the (transparency President ) . The reality is we are not to question THE OBAMA . Praise be to his name .

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Exactly why we as a nation need the indictment of Bush-era functionaries.

Somewhat hypocritical advice from the let it go crowd. Like the birth theory, evidently Bush Derangement Syndrome will never die.

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Why doesn't Obama just put it to rest??? Or is it like other parts of the constitution he would rather disregard or nullify?

wv_republican
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Mostly the responses I expected, but two questions remain unanswered that are too far outside the ususal military responses. Deployment Orders are not changed because a service person complains. The usual response would be to order them to report or face a courts martial for AWOL or Desertion. But orders came from higher up the Chain to change the orders. Second and waiting to see, what happens when many more begin the same process. Will it force The One to finally unseal the birth records he went specifically to Hawaii to seal during the campaign.

No conspiracy stuff, just actions taken by the military that are far outside the norm that only pressure from "above" could have accomplished.

Waiting for the next shoe to drop.

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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104044
Pentagon orders soldier fired for challenging prez
Army warrior terminated from job after questioning Obama eligibility

Pretty good story how this man being employed as a civilian contractor has just been persecuted at his primary work place
by the people who are concealing the BIO hazard. Barrack Insane Obama B.I.O.

Roger Ek
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I had a hoax post come across my screen yesterday about a college transcript, scholarships and foreign status. I won't repeat what was in it, but it was probably professionally done and made to look quite official. A simple Snopes query can dismiss many of these red herrings. We don't need to pass on inaccurate information as we pursue the truth. To do so could discredit a valiant effort.

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So if Obama's birth status gets found out, does that mean we're stuck with knucklehead Joe Biden as President?

Roger Ek
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Correct.

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But Joe Biden, once the dumbest man in Congress, as President would not be nearly as dangerous as Obama as no one from either party takes Babbling Joe seriously.

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Ok, wait...I have not been following this story, and my first instinct is to align with Charlie Neville, but forgive me for asking this, aren't birth certificates a matter of public record? Last year, for a trip to Canada, I had to drive to Farmington to get a copy of my birth certificate. I asked the town clerk if she needed to see my ID, and she said, "No, anyone can get a copy of this as long as they pay the fee." So why doesn't someone, anyone, file a simple FOIA request?? Am I missing something?

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Yes you are missing something, spinmaker, and obviously it's that you're sane and attuned to life as it is.

Oh well, sorry for the others, but what can I (we) do.

charlie

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Its all Bush's fault