Study suggests risks from same-sex parenting

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bob emrich
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Study suggests risks from same-sex parenting

Two studies released Sunday may act like brakes on popular social-science assertions that gay parents are the same as — or maybe better than — married mother-father parents.

“The empirical claim that no notable differences exist must go,” University of Texas sociology professor Mark Regnerus said in his study in Social Science Research.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/10/study-suggests-risks-fro...

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Tom C
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"Was ever touched sexually by

"Was ever touched sexually by a parent or other adult"

2% to 23%?

Holy cow! These are not "minor differences"!

I hope the gay advocates finally come to understand the abuse, sexual and otherwise, they are subjecting so many children to by promoting "gay marriage".

These problems are problems every person with a shred of common sense could see coming. It disgusts me that we let this terrible abuse go on in the name of "progress".

Jim Cyr
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I've worked closely with kids

I've worked closely with kids being raised by gay or lesbian parents. I've seen the risks and damages involved up close and personal.
Nobody really cares what happens with those kids, though. Not much anyways.

thejohnchapman
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Nobody really cares what

Nobody really cares what happens with those kids, though. Not much anyways

bob:

There's a place where they care even less. IMHO, that's the appropriate comparison. How do kids turn out after being raised in the foster care system, or an orphanage? How do kids turn out when raised by a drunken non-bio-father and a welfare mom?

That'd be an interesting, and pretty relevant comparison. Two words come to mind:

Logan

Marr

So that's the real question. Are same-gender adoptive parents "better than the alternative"?

Bruce Libby
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Guess what there are risks

Guess what there are risks involved w/ any type classification of parents.
If you want a real issue try divorced parents because mom decided she was a lesbian after all !!!!!
Qualification: even if hetero. she wouldn't have the parenting maternal skills of a flea!
We love our step grandson and help w/ damage done as best we can by loving him!

It is all risk management nowadays even under the best of conditions.
Over all the question becomes ,do we value children in our culture ?

There are many events that tell us that is not a fully answered question.

Tom C
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Hold your horses. The point

Hold your horses.

The point of this study is simply that it refutes what we have been told by the gay advocates that "gay parents are as good as traditional parents."

On average, that's clearly not the case.

Are same-gender adoptive parents "better than the alternative"?

It would seem that in many cases they might be worse. Perhaps before deciding "what's best" for children, we could start by getting our facts straight.

Kris Watson
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"That'd be an interesting,

"That'd be an interesting, and pretty relevant comparison"
I think to make that comparison in the context of this thread, we would have to compare a drunken non-bio-father and a welfare mom with a drunken same sex couple on welfare.

thejohnchapman
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Kris: Do you know something

Kris:

Do you know something about the adoption system we don't? I cannot imagine any home study permitting ANY habitual drunks of ANY flavor to adopt. If they so, the DHS officials responsible should be terminated.

At the end of the day, the alternative to adoption is the foster care system, or an orphanage. If somebody realistically demonstrated that kids were shuttled to same sex households at the expense of possibly BETTER households -- that'd merit consideration. However, if the landscape is one where any significant number of kids aren't placed, then the choice for many becomes same-sex adoption vs. non-adoption.

Tom C
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However, if the landscape is

However, if the landscape is one where any significant number of kids aren't placed,

People are waiting years to adopt kids.

Kris Watson
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"Do you know something about

"Do you know something about the adoption system we don't? I cannot imagine any home study permitting ANY habitual drunks of ANY flavor to adopt."
I know that the adoption system is not perfect. Mistakes are made. I am sure that the same studies and permits are made of foster homes and orphanages... I also know that mistakes have been made there also. These rules apply regardless of the parents sexual orientation, don't they?

The point is that, all things being equal, that children are better off being raised in a traditional household rather than by homosexual parents... according to this particular study. Do you dispute that? I do agree that it is better to place a child in a well vetted same sex home rather than to place them with high risk straight folks.

NancyEH
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Although I doubt that this

Although I doubt that this will have much impact on the discussion, you might want to read "It's Time for Mark Regnerus to Get Collectively Dumped".

Any parent can be good or bad at any time. But did it ever occur to any of you attacking gay/lesbian parents that one of the reasons they may have troubles is *because* of people like you? I've known good gay/lesbian parents and horrible straight ones. As an educator, I've seen the results of serial divorces and the half-sibling, step-sibling craziness that can occur. Stop blaming the sexual orientation and start looking at the individual.

Bruce Libby
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OK Nancy I blame the screwed

OK Nancy I blame the screwed up incapable of being anything like a normal mother who happens to be a lesbian,who was willing to use her child as a tool to get at the father, because he wanted a divorce instead of staying married and letting his wife carry on w./ another women. I can see a few things wrong w/ the choices available in the situation .
See it is because of people like us!!! It has nothing to do w/ anything else!

Tom C
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that one of the reasons they

that one of the reasons they may have troubles is *because* of people like you?

And yes! It's the Barak Obama theory of personal responsibilty!

Nancy has proved herself a TRUE democrat!

Kris Watson
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you attacking gay/lesbian

you attacking gay/lesbian parents

Funny how a study that points out the possible shortcomings of a special interest that Democrats support, you see it as an attack.

Also, it is nice that Molly can use her opinion and the opinion of others to combat statistics. It may be time to dump her.

Vikingstar
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So, NancyEH posts a link to

So, NancyEH posts a link to an article by a leftist who doesn't actually refute anything that the study said, and then plays the "homophobe" card. I'm shocked...simply shocked. Who could ever have imaged that this would be the response of the Left to a study that contradicts one of their sacred icons?

wv_republican
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Thank you for many good

Thank you for many good examples of hackneyed statements from the homosexual activist playbook.

http://cnsnews.com/blog/pete-winn/gay-playbook-and-how-its-overhauling-a...

Any substantative responses to the article itself? Are homosexual couples more damaging to children? The article asserts, along with other well researched and peer reviewed articles I've posted in the past state that there are trends indicating damage, but more study needs to be done.

Not topics about serial divorces, drunkenness or multi-generational welfare families were cited in the study.... only comparisions between homosexual couples and stable traditional mom and pop (for those who need the clairification) families.

thejohnchapman
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The comparison made by this

The comparison made by this study -- of various types of child rearing arrangements vs. the "IBF" (intact biological family) is pretty important. No same-gender family is a "BF". Presumably, no adoptive family is a "BF". That's the reason i worry about the "apples / oranges" effect. The study concludes:

"But the NFSS also clearly reveals that children appear most apt to succeed well as adults—on multiple counts and
across a variety of domains—when they spend their entire childhood with their married mother and father, and especially when the parents remain married to the present day."

What does that portend for government action re:

Adoption by "straight" (non-biological parents)?
Continued custody by EITHER biological parent after divorce?
Custody by EITHER biological parent in an "out-of-wedlock" arrangement?
Custody by the surviving bio-parent when the other bio-parent dies or is incarcerated?

Since these ALL appear to be suboptimal (and I agree with the results of the study) -- as compared with the "IBF", what action should be taken there? What are you suggesting?

Bob S
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Stop blaming the sexual

Stop blaming the sexual orientation and start looking at the individual.

I agree!! I know of people who could not adopt a pet from the pound that have little kids running wild everywhere.

David Allen
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IF the study is accurate, AND

IF the study is accurate, AND the government has decided that an intact heterosexual couple provides the best opportunity for raising stable, well-adjusted children, then clearly the government has an interest in promoting life-long heterosexual marriage. I believe that's why the government has established numerous "incentives", mostly financial, for couples to stay together. Once "no-fault" divorce became law in most places, the government created conflicting laws, some aimed at promoting heterosexual marriage, others making it easier for those marriages to disolve. At this point, since most marriages end in divorce, the government has failed in its objectives and should step aside of the whole mess. What this study didn't do was compare children of lifelong couples, heterosexual and homosexual.

Tom C
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I believe that's why the

I believe that's why the government has established numerous "incentives", mostly financial, for couples to stay together.

The incentives were created in the days when most men worked, and women stayed home with the kids. The "benefits of marriage" were designed to give economic support to just that situation. The fact that childless couples, or couples where both adults worked just happened to benefit from that wasn't intended, but wasn't thought to be a big problem.

Now we've separated the benefit from the responsibility. People are now demanding the "benefits of marriage" as an individual right, rather than recognizing it as a way of helping children with families.

Get rid of the "rights and benefits of marriage" because we won't be able to afford to help out every Adam and Steve, or whoever they are choosing to live with this year.

It's too bad, but it is the only way I can see to go, from a financial perspective.

And, once you get rid of "rights and benefits" and leave only obligation and responsibility, you'll see Democrats flee from the idea.

wv_republican
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Respondents reported

Respondents reported tendencies to suffer from depression and thoughts of suicide, with an increased need for mental health therapy. They also were more likely to self-identify as homosexual, contract sexually transmitted diseases, have lower income levels, drink more often to get drunk, and smoke both tobacco and marijuana.

http://www.worldoncampus.com/2012/06/study_two_dads_are_not_better_than_one

Wow, I thought that identifying as homosexual wasn't a "learned behavior....."

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