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[quote]It was 11 months ago that UMaine signed over to Black Bear Sports Properties the exclusive rights to negotiate the bidding and make decisions in awarding radio and TV rights for UMaine athletics. In return, [b]UMaine received $450,000[/b], but relinquished the right to determine which stations would carry Black Bear games.

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Follow the money!

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The Kings and the vast majority of the UM administration and faculty are of the left...and Clear Channel and WVOM in particular are perceived to be on the right. That's the bottom line here.

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Jon I agree that may be fueling some of the controversy, but there does seem to be something smelly here.

This is only the most recent manifestation of UMaine's athletic office mis-treating long time supporters.

Governor's Restaurant lost the concession contract after many many years of (excellent and low cost) service.

I don't recall the details but a few years ago there was a controversy involving Larry Mahaney that left a sour taste in his mouth. That after he provided so much support for the baseball (Mahaney by the way) field.

I think this goes beyond politics.

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[quote]The lease on a 12-seat luxury box at Alfond Arena is $132,500 for six years, [b]$26,500 a year.[/b][/quote]

If I am not mistaken the original price was $125,000 for a 10 year lease. The cost has more than doulbed? Ouch!

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This is a done deal, and it makes sense from a "business only" standpoint. Clear Channel paid a lot more money for the broadcasting rights and has the potential to provide more statewide coverage of UMaine sports. Stephen King's Bangor station was paying only a pittance and had been unable to put together a statewide network for UMaine games.

That said, however, the deal was not done very diplomatically considering that King has been a big donor to the school over the past couple of decades and is probably its best-known and richest graduate. His gifts to the school have totaled millions more than UMaine lost in broadcast rights. And feelings were bound to be hurt.

I'm not sure about Prof. Reisman's bottom line. It is true that King and most of the UMaine hierarchy are lefties, and Clear Channel carries such righties as Rush Limbaugh. But for Clear Channel, this is business, not political. If it could find someone on the left who could match Limbaugh's numbers it might well add that voice. But Limbaugh, for now at least, is the undisputed king of the talk show hosts and no leftie is even in the talk show top 20. For Clear Channel, it's the size of Limbaugh's audience that counts.

A more legitimate concern may be Clear Channel's future. The company is reported to be selling off many of its stations, including some in Maine. How will this affect its ability to deliver UMaine sports coverage to other parts of the state? Anyone have any info on this?

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Sounds like a business deal to me. Why should an out of state resident be given a sweetheart deal because he gives money to the school? Sounds like there may have been some backroom stuff happening that should have been. Do you think our Attorney General will investigate one of the Democrat party's largest donors?

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Sports is big bucks, and UMO is one that is trying to bring home the money by selling the rights to sell the UMO name.

If Mr. King was not given proper treatment there is a problem.

Mr. King is a giant sports supporter for Bangor, he has a local ball park up there, and has given large sums of money to UMO over the years (not to mention writing cool stories that mention my fraternity that he did not like).

It does appear that there are hard feelings, perhaps the University and its agent did not do proper diligence in the negotiations.

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The fact of the matter is that the Kings understand business. They understand that the university needs to do what is best for the university.

The problem is that the athletic dept made this deal with clear channel w/o giving the Kings a chance to counter offer. Not a smart move considering that the Kings give big bucks to the university and have supported them in numerous ways through endorsements and speaking at commencement exercises etc.

The Kings have been very generous with more than just their wallets and for UMaine to go behind their backs like that is just a slap in the face. The article gives conflicting stories, but if someone also asked the Kings to give up their box at the games, the administration there is dumber than I ever imagined.

Pretty big mess and at a really bad time given that UMaine is in the middle of a campaign.

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Mary1, if that is correct, and I were the King, I would not give the University any Cash.

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So people who give money to the university should get special treatment when doing business with the university?

Wouldn't that turn the donation into a bribe?

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The University of Maine athletic dept is interested in only one thing, fattening its already huge wallet. Obviously money was the only consideration for the dept in this matter.

The Kings have every right to feel hurt.

I often do not agree with the King's politics but their generosity is extremely well known. EMMC has some wonderful things there due to their generosity.

If I were the Kings the University would never see another cent. Perhaps they would remember that next time.

My classmate and his wife were treated like dirt by the University and a perfunctory apology is nowhere near good enough.

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[quote="woodcanoe"]The University of Maine athletic dept is interested in only one thing, fattening its already huge wallet. Obviously money was the only consideration for the dept in this matter.
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Money should be the ONLY consideration when it comes to selling broadcast rights. It is the University's responsibility to get as much as possible for such rights.

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The University of Maine has always been in the business of higher education.

Where is it written that its mission should be the "business" of pro atheletics?

Since it has become the minor league for the NHL atheltics have become more important than it's education mission.

I deplore the fact that many Mainers care only about how great the hockey team is and could care less how well the educational side of things is going.

If the NHL wants to have a minor league let them fund it. And leave UMO to its education mission.

Then this kind of crap would no longer be an issue.

By the way how much of the money generated by the athletic dept do you think carries over into the educational mission of the University?

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Dan - if money was the only consideration, why wouldn't they want to give King a chance to beat the other bid?

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[quote="woodcanoe"]The University of Maine has always been in the business of higher education.

Where is it written that its mission should be the "business" of pro atheletics?
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I am all for shutting down sports programs in all public schools.

But as long as the university is in the business, I want them to take in as much money as possible from the program to minimize the costs to the taxpayers.

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[quote="Wilson"]Dan - if money was the only consideration, why wouldn't they want to give King a chance to beat the other bid?[/quote]

The University sold the whole package for $750K. The producer then dealt with the stations.

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Yes, well actually $450K. Does anyone know if that went out to bid?

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King had the broadcast rights for years and paid very little for them.

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Did someone step up to offer more when he was paying very little? Perhaps he paid very little for them at a time when they were worth very little.

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Someone stepped up now and he is whining.

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Is he whining that they stepped up, or that he wasn't given a good faith opportunity to counter-offer?

Seems to me that the article glosses over some information that I would want to know before I could come to a conclusion on that.

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I'm listening to both sides of this discussion and can agree a little with each point of view However, this whole situation leads me to ask if Walt Abbott has retired (finally) and the athletic dept. is moving in a new direction. Does anyone know :?:

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[quote="Wilson"]Is he whining that they stepped up, or that he wasn't given a good faith opportunity to counter-offer?

Seems to me that the article glosses over some information that I would want to know before I could come to a conclusion on that.[/quote]

The University sold the rights to a producer, not a station. Once the producer had the rights, it was up to the producer to work out deals with stations.

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[quote="Dan Billings"]
I am all for shutting down sports programs in all public schools.
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You queer or something?

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Dan- I understand that his gripe is with the way the producer conducted the deals.

However, when a public university selects a producer to sell one of the assets of the public university, the conduct of the producer is a matter of public interest. In fact, whether or not this is an appropriate way for the University to sell these rights is a question of public interest. For example, the income from the sales of the broadcast rights may offset the need for tax dollars/bonding to meet University needs. On the other hand, the public perception of the University as a shark in the sea of big media might reduce alumni giving to a point which offsets that income. At the end of the day, the University is a public one, not a private one.

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I have read nothing anywhere that suggests that King was ready to provide the money -- or the coverage area -- provided by the Clear Channel stations.

I have never heard anyone suggest that King was prepared to offer a better deal that provided more money or more geograohic coverage.

All I have read is whining.

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Well, there is a lot of information lacking in that article, I'll grant you that Dan. I'm just not willing to reach the same conclusions you have with so little information about any of these deals. Are you operating on information from other sources you would be willing to share?

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I have read two or three different articles on this.

In none of them have King's representatives said they could match the Clear Channel deal.

If they could, you would think that would be their #1 talking point.

The reality is that they do not have the stations to match the deal.

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This isn't just about business - it's about respect. Maybe the Kings couldn't offer a better, bigger deal. So what.

King has bent over backwards for his alma matter and the least they could do is explain to him why they felt it was best for the university to switch to Clear Channel 1st. The Kings' generosity to UMaine is proof that they are passionate about the success of Maine's public institution. I'm sure they would have understood.

But to treat them like they were just switching phone plans after getting a call from a telemarketer is just bad business. The university has managed to anger a lot of alumni (now former donors) and it is because of dealings like these. You only hear about this one because the vicitm of their carelessness is King.

This isn't a completely isolated incident and this type of dealing is going to throw up red flags for a lot of UMaine's financial partners. They've got some serious damage control to do.

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So should the university show special consideration to a business owned by any big donor?

Is a donation really a way to help your business?

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