The U.S. Government is on a burning platform

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The U.S. Government is on…”a burning platform”…of unsustainable policies and practices”

“Chilling long-term simulations…”include “dramatic”…tax rises, slashed government services and the long-scale dumping by foreign governments of holdings of U.S.

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The U.S. Government is on"¦"a burning platform""¦of unsustainable policies and practices"

"Chilling long-term simulations"¦"include "dramatic""¦tax rises, slashed government services and the long-scale dumping by foreign governments of holdings of U.S. debt"

"Striking similarities" between America's current situation and the factors that brought down Rome, including "declining moral values and political civility at home, an over-confident and over-extended military in foreign lands and fiscal irresponsibility by the central government:"

"On a path toward an explosion of debt"¦with looming retirement ob baby boomers, spiraling healthcare costs, plummeting savings rates and increasing reliance on foreign lenders, we face unprecedented fiscal risk"¦"

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http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/deepcaster/2007/1228.html

When is the revolution or do we have to wait for armageddon first

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Both parties fully understand the situation they have created. It is impossible for them to point fingers at each other. They are both simply rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. Our country is broks and borrowing from Islamofascists and Red China just to preserve the illusion. Financial Armageddon will come first. How we deal with it as citizens will define us as a people. How the elitists react will determine whether we have a revolution. If the elitists begin to expropriate private property and private industry it will get very messy.

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Hi Roger

In identifying a problem we must identify the core root of the problem.

The politicians are the symptoms of the greater problem. The politicians are voted in to manage our government by the citizens.

The root of the problem are the Bankers which Jefferson warned us about. The Bankers took control of the fiat money system and are allowed to do what ever they please with that money. The bankers have enslaved our society by granting credit and printing money which the citizens can enjoy their greatest desires. The citizens are indebted to the banking system, and the punishment is bankruptcy and taking away our worldly goods.

The Bankers own and control our news, entertainment and educational systems and feed us propaganda so we as a collective society know what they want us to know. When it comes to vote in our Government Managers, we are given the choices that the bankers want us to choose from. Those politicians are indebted to the bankers and are paid well when they do what the bankers want them to do. Now the politician does not pay attention to what the public wants and does what the bankers want.

Now who are the bankers who have the control of the Federal Reserve system which controls the finances of the world monetary trade?

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Oh, oh, I can feel it coming. Get out the tinfoil hats folks.

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democrat wrote:
Get out the tinfoil hats folks.

Something in microwave popcorn bags works just as well. And you get popcorn!

Andy :wink:

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The bankers have enslaved our society by granting credit and printing money which the citizens can enjoy their greatest desires.

I get to enjoy my greatest desires? Golly, that doesn't sound so bad!

I want to thank those Bankers. Who the heck are they? Can anyone provide their addresses?

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I'm waiting for the claim that the "bankers" are all Jews and THAT is the root of the problem. I remember hearing that somewhere before.

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Wait a minute here...I have been granted credit and my greatest desires still haven't been granted...jeez, what am I doing wrong? Thats it...I'm taking that all my old appliances and power tools and making my own printing press...I'll show them...any one know a cheap ink source besides calamri?

Anonymous

Nuf said
All I see are Kool-aid drinkers here

The Bubble that Broke the World
http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi-bin/D.PL?s=OWJJqz&d=ww2010.i.garrett071009

PREDICTIONS FOR 2008
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2007/1231.html

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democrat wrote:
Oh, oh, I can feel it coming. Get out the tinfoil hats folks.

Beautiful Democrat! Beautiful! You have me laughing.

landry
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xjdigger, read for yourself who controlls the Federal Reserve.

http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html
Bud

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Xdigger, landry,
both of you, explain to me one thing.
As much as I try to be a good republican and conservative in my monetary dealings, how come Clinton was the only president in my lifetime that saw the national debt go down?

Bob Stone
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Taxed the hell out of us and let the military go to pot.

Roger Ek
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The debt didn't go down. However, having Republican majorities in both houses did slow the rate of increase.

Economike
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Say, let's have a contest to see who's got the whackiest "conspiracy of international bankers" story.

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democrat wrote:
Oh, oh, I can feel it coming. Get out the tinfoil hats folks.

You're right, democrat. Instead of trying to stop this runaway train, let us all join you as you pick your nose and fiddle.

Let us cast our troubles to the wind and call for a raise in taxes so that all people in this country -- here legally or not -- can live in luxury, whether they work or not. Let us emulate Canada's medical system, which will deny medical care to the aged and "too infirm" even as we shout "It's for the children!"

Let us hold a bonfire, using copies of old, useless, and forgotten documents such as the Constitution and Declaration of Independence as fuel.

Yes, let us all join democrat. After all, it is better to feel good about oneself for pretending to be a humanitarian than to actually do something about runaway trains.

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Calvin wrote:
As much as I try to be a good republican and conservative in my monetary dealings, how come Clinton was the only president in my lifetime that saw the national debt go down?

He was the only president in MY lifetime to institute a retroactive tax.

But, as I recall, the Republicans held the House and Senate, did they not?

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Are we talking about a runaway train or a burning platform?

Or maybe a burning platform on a runaway train? :wink:

Hey, Michelle, in your response to democrat are you suggesting that you find xjdigger's insights on the conspiracy of Bankers helpful in advancing public discussion? Just curious.

Anonymous

Thanks Landry for your link, I am quit familiar with the monetary system and that world monetary trade is managed by the monetary elite.

I am not a good writer in translating information from my research as it is hard for me to translate in short paragraphs such as the one that I posted the other day. A writer (dtrvler) said it well at Kitco forum and I will repost it here.

https://www.kitcomm.com/member.php?u=5486

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Mespe: I do understand! I just understand something different than do you!
The notion that fiat makes it possible for more goods to be available to us and that it brings us a higher average standard of living is preposterous and wrong. Now hear me out:
With Gold money there is ZERO inflation. Inflation is that insidious, relentless, silent, thief in the night that steals the value of our labor and our goods from us day in and day out. Remember, a 2007 fiat dollar is worth 2.5 cents of a 1913 dollar.
You assert that: "If we adhered to a "Gold standard" then when more items came on market, some things would have to go down in cost, things like milk, eggs, bread. Remember the basic principles of economics, a given amount of money buys a given amount of goods. Create more money and the price of the goods goes up, Conversely, keep the money supply constant, but increase the amount of goods and the price goes DOWN."
You are operating under a false premise and that is that the amount of gold is somehow kept constant. It is not. One hundred years ago there were about one billion ounces of gold above the ground and now there is about 6 billion ounces of gold above ground. Prices of products would also vary percentage wise in relation to each other as markets dictated. We all could have all the same things as we have now and more prosperity with gold as money. The price of things would vary directly proportionally to the amount of gold. Exactly as it should be. It does not matter how much gold a product or service or good is worth in gold, it only matters that the amount is appropriately proportional to the perceived worth that the market gives it.There would not be as many rich bankers, rich crooked polititians, rich wall street swindlers, etc. All sorts of vile filth would be impossible without filthy fiat. The notion that fiat makes it possible for us to have prosperity is THE LIE perpetrated on us by the rich international bankers and their little bitches (paid for politicians) that created the federal reserve in the first place on that fateful day in 1913. Fiat makes it possible for the evil bankers to create boom and bust to break the financial backs of the working people of this great country so that they(the rich and the rich bankers) may systematically harvest the bloody, sweaty, tearful bounty of a man's labor at pennies on the dollar. They did it in 1920/1921 and again in 1929 and 1930 and they have done it several times since. They are doing it now. First they flood the fiat supply. Then they drain the money supply. THEY COULD NOT DO THIS WITH GOLD AS THE STANDARD! Do you understand?
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Economike wrote:
Are we talking about a runaway train or a burning platform?

Or maybe a burning platform on a runaway train?
From the land of mixed metaphors: Neither. We are talking about a platform which is on fire because a runaway train has crashed into it. Duh.

Economike wrote:
Hey, Michelle, in your response to democrat are you suggesting that you find xjdigger's insights on the conspiracy of Bankers helpful in advancing public discussion? Just curious.

In my response to democrat, I am addressing her suggestions. I am ignoring xjdigger's comments, as I have often found it advantageous to do. :)

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Michelle, what the heck are you talking about? What "suggestions" are you responding to? My tinfoil hat comment was directed at digger, who was about to tell us all about the international banking conspiracy. How do you get raising taxes, instituting canada's medical system and burning the constitution out of that - unless it's a figment of your addled brain.

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Economike wrote:
Say, let's have a contest to see who's got the whackiest "conspiracy of international bankers" story.

Okay. But this isn't a whacky conspiracy story, it is the truth:

The federal reserve system, which perpetuates the coerced use of fiat currecny, is actually an anti-christian religious organization. The reserve banks are nothing more than churches for this religion. Recall the bible stories from Matthew 21:12, and Mark 11:15, and Exodus 30:13? Jesus went to the temple and drove out the money lenders.

The moneylenders place of business in this ancient religion is thier church, their "temple". The moneychangers are the bankers. Today's national treasury is the Temple. When Jesus arrived with the mass of pilgrims, He overturned the tables and called it a den of thieves and a house of merchandise. The Temple was a great public treasury with vaults containing immense stores of private wealth, just like the FED. These deposits never sat idle, but were loaned at high rates of interest, just like our US TReasury notes (plus with inflation!!). Recall the tales of the Jewish historian Josephus and his account of the burning of the archives in Jerusalem and the terrible picture it painted of the incredible debts that were owed by the poor to the rich-- just like the debt crisis facing America today. It is believed, by historians, that the intention of the burning was to 'destroy the money-lenders' tallies and to prevent the exaction of debts, just liek Ron Paul wnats to do. After reading about how an infuriated mob robbed the Temple booths and dragged the sons of Annas to their death, about three decades after the story of Jesus, it can only be imagined how much the Jewish bankers were hated by the humble commoners.
In fact, The FED is a satanic cult in that it is anti-christian, seeking to avenge the moneylenders that were driven out of the Temple by Jesus so long ago. The fear Ron Paul, because they believe him to be the return of the messiah as prophecied in the book of Revelation.
Another, modern day prophet, Jethro Tull, gives similar warnings in his song "In the Moneylenders' Temple" (Note the name of the album: "Twelve dances with God." Mere coincidence that there are 12 reserve banks?????) And before anyone tries to dismiss this true account by pointing out that this Tull song is an instrumental with no lyrics-- don't forget that the lyircs have been supressed by the moneylenders and their coconspirators in that den of iniquity, the entertainment industry.
Yes, they fear the coming of the messiah because Jesus promised the religious aristocracy that their "Temple would be left desolate," and not a single stone of the Temple would be left on top of another that would not be thrown down.

Prove me wrong.

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Emike, if we are going to have a contest, may we have your theory, please?
Bud

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how about the board of directors of newscorp....who own fox...its not a conspiracy if its public info though is it? Nope no bias there as to who gets air time.
Andrew S.B. Knight
Director
Rothschild Investment Trust C.P
(Banker)

Rod Eddington
Non-Executive Chairman for
Australia and New Zealand
JPMorgan
(banker)

John L. Thornton
Professor and Director of Global Leadership
Tsinghua University of Beijing
(globalist)

Viet Dinh, creator of Patriot Act
ex-employee of GW Bush

Ken Crowley, Commonwealth bank

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Emike, if we are going to have a contest, may we have your theory, please?

Landry -

Just because the inmates hold a certain clinical interest for me, it doesn't follow that I want to live in their asylum. I confess that I lack both the naivete and interest to expound - with any sincerity - a whacky theory in which central bankers conspire to run the whole world. Besides, I lack the sort of chutzpah that could make this claim -

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I am quit familiar with the monetary system and that world monetary trade is managed by the monetary elite.

And, how could I possibly compete with this submission?

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The federal reserve system, which perpetuates the coerced use of fiat currecny, is actually an anti-christian religious organization.

I have no doubt, however, that you could win the contest if you wanted.

landry
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Emike, your usual way out.
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xjdigger wrote:
THE FEDERAL RESERVE FRAUD
http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/FED.html

What better way to show the world you want to be taken seriously about your opinion on public policy matters; attach yourself after a backslash to the geocities.com domain.

I recommend a visit to the link. Then remove the /FED.html from the address bar and see what else northstarzone has to offer. There you can learn “The Truth Behind 9-11” (Hint: think MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX), read about the “Deep Underground Military Bases in America” and find “The Cure for Every Disease”. Plus lots of other neat stuff.

Thanks for the link, xjdigger. Bookmark --- check.

Economike
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Whoa! That site is the intellectual equivalent of at least five hits of blotter.

Hey, I bet this was the inspiration for Deepcaster's concept of "dark liquidity" from xjdigger's original link -

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Blackstrap Molassses: The Sweet Health Food

Seriously, there seems to be a lot of people who seek out the loopiest possible explanations to explain everyday events.

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...blotter and molasses, cocktailed in a big dipper: Occam's spoon.

Anonymous

Sorry if that link had other incredible articles, I pulled that article because it was short and to the point other articles I have are more technical longer reads. The truth to the fact is that the Federal reserve is a private controlled entity and the managing bankers that control the activities have not operated in the best interest of the US citizens, but to the best interest of the banking elite. The value of our dollar has taken a terrible beating due to the mismanagement of our financial assets.

* Hey Buddy, Can You Spare $1,000 Trillion? by sharon kayser
- http://shobhitmathur.wordpress.com/2007/12/04/hey-buddy-can-you-spare-1000-trillion/

* The dollar's decline: from symbol of hegemony to shunned currency
- http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3169638.ece

* Today News is - Gold surges to new record highs
- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7168419.stm