VOTE "NO" ON BOND ISSUE TODAY

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VOTE "NO" ON BOND ISSUE TODAY

Don't forget to vote today - NO on the Bond issue. The bloated Maine bureacracy ran out of money in the budget, so now they are trying to pass some multi million dollar bond issue "to help Mainers get jobs". Isn't that touching? The big old beautiful socialist government of Maine wants to take care of all of us and help bring jobs to Maine. Why don't they make Maine a friendly business environment in the first place by cutting taxes and giving incentives to business so they stop fleeing the state? And, of course, we will all have to pay for this Bond issue later by, you guessed it, higher taxes. But hey, anything ficken that increases governement spending keeps the liberals happy.VOTE NO.

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I voted no already. Hopefully the majority of Mainers will agree and turn down the additional spending

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"NO" it is for me, too.If the state were really interested in putting this much money into the economy, the Legislature could have conformed the state code with the federal tax code and there would have been no debt added.In the 2004-2005 Part 1 budget that was enacted in such a hurry last March, the Governor and Legislature RAISED our income taxes by not fully conforming to the federal tax law changes enacted LAST year: about $20 million in FY 04; about $30 million in FY 05.They see no virtue in letting us keep more of our own money. Instead they want us to get more heavily into debt.

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Is there a box called "nyet" on the ballot?

Anonymous
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I know this is a different issue, but when I went and voted "no" at lunch time today, there were some petition gatherers at Scarborough that want to put a referendum on the ballot to allow slot machines in Maine. Where did that come from? I haven't heard about slot machines coming to Maine before.I suppose they are going to say that a portion of the slot machine money goes to education, right?

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My wife and I vote no tonight. Of course, with our track record on bond issues, I expect this free money to pass overwhelmingly.sigh :eek:

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My "nay" is cast. I hope the rest of the state comes to its senses.-Bryceformerly panner348

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Does someone know who has been paying for all of the TV advertising and signs in favor of the bond issue?

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There are a bunch of littel hand made signs that appeared like magic this morning against the idea!

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quote:Originally posted by TonyO:
[b]Does someone know who has been paying for all of the TV advertising and signs in favor of the bond issue?[/b]

I haven't checked the PACs finance report but my assumption is that most of the money came from the bio/medical research companies that will benefit the most from the bond. MMA probably kicked in a small contribution and some of the low income housing developers likely kicked in as well.It will be a miracle if the Yes votes don't get over 60% of the vote. They rigged the game by holding the vote in June. I voted no and hope others turned out to do so as well, but I expect mostly those that would benefit turned out to vote.

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My NO was recorded at 8AM in brunswick.I still feel this will pass.Mainers love credit.

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and taxes, and bureaucrats, and handouts, and the free lunch, and big government, and "moderates" and compromise,....the list is endless. :eek:

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Iam sometimes amazed at all the people that complain about high taxes and then vote yes for all of these bond issues. I wish that for once the people in Maine would JUST SAY NO.

Anonymous
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My wife told me that at the polling place in Scarborough the turnout was only 5%.Watch for the PPH and other media to declare this bond issue passing by a "majority" of the voters.

Anonymous
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My wife and I both went (at separate times) to vote NO. Each time we were almost the only ones in the polling area (Wiscasset). Let's hope those of us passionate to go and vote NO won this one......

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quote:Originally posted by TonyO:
[b]My wife told me that at the polling place in Scarborough the turnout was only 5%.Watch for the PPH and other media to declare this bond issue passing by a "majority" of the voters.[/b]

And they will be correct. A majority of those voting will decide the outcome.

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The BDN is posting results as they come in. SO far, the about 55% of those voting are in favor, a closer vote than I expected.[url=http://www.bangornews.com/election/index.cfm]http://www.bangornews.com/e...

Anonymous
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Very interesting George - only 44% counted so far. If they counted Portland first, this may still get defeated. Quite surprising.

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quote:Originally posted by TonyO:
[b]Very interesting George - only 44% counted so far. If they counted Portland first, this may still get defeated. Quite surprising.[/b]

You can look at the county by county and town by town votes. Mostly small towns in so far, not Portland or South Portland. Westbrook is in and voted Yes.

Anonymous
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The most interesting number is the 4% turnout.[ 06-10-2003: Message edited by: George ]

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With over 50% of the precincts having reported and over 57% of those voting, voting Yes, we have projected a voctory for the big spenders.

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Not sure if Portland has been reported here, but the precint I worked at (Mike Saxl's & Karen Gergarty's -- both no shows) the vote was about 201 to 53. (opps 201 Yes, 53 No)Steven Scharf
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SCSMedia@aol.com[ 06-10-2003: Message edited by: Steven Scharf ]That is about a 9% turnout.[ 06-10-2003: Message edited by: Steven Scharf ]

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I'm a little surprised that the bond issue is losing in Kennebec County while it is winning statewide. Kennebec County seems generally more liberal than Maine as a whole. Oh wow. I've checked now and now the bond issue is winning in Kennebec County, and by a sizable margin. I had noticed the towns in Kennebec County where returns had come in were more rural towns. Still, the only two municipalities in Kennebec County voting Yes right now are Hallowell and Winslow. With Augusta having yet to vote, I bet that Kennebec County will end up going Yes by a sizable margin. I'm going to stop writing now, because by the time it takes me to complete a post like this (I can be pretty slow) things can have greatly changed. I know most of you are unhappy about the bond issue passing, but I hope you can all enjoy the rest of tonight and tomorrow anyway.Sincerely,Kevin Lamoreau

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Ripley44 NO33 yes

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Just heard on the news that those who voted were in a "spending" mood and the bond issues will pass. My wallet can't get much emptier. :(

Anonymous
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With 72% counted it is Yes, 61%, No, 39%, with turnout at 13%.More debt that we are all going to have to pay for. It's a shame. :(

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Okay, 7 or 8% of Maine's voters approved this borrowing. Shame on the legislature for:1. Holding a special election in June to slip this through.2. Lumping a variety of projects into one question.A friend told me that there was about $400 million in authorized bonded indebtedness sitting, unused, going into this election.To use a favorite expression of the Clinton era, [b]"let's move on"[/b]. The pathetic voter turnout proves once again the old saying "people get the government they deserve".

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They have no shame and the vote turned out exactly as I expected. Residents will never vote against the free lunch. It's a matter of faith in Maine. Someone else will pay.

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Do you favor a bond to supplement the pay of everyone making less than $50,000 a year?

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Journal Tribune
6/7-8/03EditorialTo do: Vote
June 10 bond question offers state prospect of jobs, opportunity, hopeAs June moves into a higher gear, with weddings, graduations and the distant footsteps of prospective summer visitors, most Maine residents have a few chores to do.
Find something to wear to that wedding. Get a present for that grad and a new set of sheets for that guest bed.And vote. The list of early-summer chores this year includes a statewide and little-discussed election on Tuesday that could go a long way toward enriching the future of the state.
The $60 million package includes funds for biomedical research, education, affordable housing and agriculture. It would mean adding to the state’s indebtedness at a time when interest rates are low and overall debt is relatively low.The state can’t afford to pass up this opportunity.The benefits of the bond issue would be spread across the state and across economic and educational lines, as supporters have quietly reminded voters in recent weeks.One big benefit for this area would be the $20 million for biomedical research, including funds for the University of New England. The money would enable the Biddeford-based school to bring in more federal money to build a research center where knowledge and jobs and investment would be natural byproducts.There are other benefits: The bond package includes $8 million for affordable housing – which will be matched by more than twice that amount in federal and private funds. As Maine State Housing Authority Director Michael Finnegan pointed out here on Wednesday, housing is absolutely necessary for economic growth. Any state that wants to increase job opportunities and private investment has to be able to provide places for people to live. This is as true in this part of the state as it is anywhere else. (Ask someone who’s gone apartment or house hunting lately.)Bond issues don’t generally draw a huge amount of interest either for or against, but this one should not be overlooked. It’s more carefully crafted than some of the mixed bags of recent years, and it seeks to help the state move forward with research, development, jobs and opportunities, despite the difficult economy.Maine voters shouldn’t let this one slip off their to-do lists#####

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Come on now, we all know that if this was presented on a presidential election day it would have passed by the same margin.What is a waste is that the legislators go through this stupid process of having an bond vote, when they know 60% of the people will give it the rubber stamp.They should just do it themselves and save us the time and money to go down to the polls and have officials counting the votes.It however is a great way for them to pass the buck to the 60% when they borrow us into the hole.Maine people are so into getting a check from their neighbors or feeling all warm and fuzzy about spending money that it has become a joke.If there was any way that fiscal conservatives could have rejected a bond vote it was Tuesday.Like Bud said in another thread, Mainers are a bunch of socialists, there is very little hope in changing the power of the 60% to abuse the 40%.[ 06-12-2003: Message edited by: Mike G ]

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