Wal-Mart pulls guns from half of its stores in Maine

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Wal-Mart pulls guns from half of its stores in Maine

By David Sharp, February 18, 2007

BIDDEFORD, Maine --Wal-Mart has halted gun sales at many of its stores, a change greeted with disappointment in a state with a strong hunting tradition.

All told, Wal-Mart has pulled guns from half of its 22 stores in Maine; six of the stores stopped selling guns this month.

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Knives, Baseball Bats are weapon of choice at Wallyworld??

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They say it's economically motivated, not politically; but I still wonder regardless.

[quote]"As with any merchandise decision that we make, the decision to remove firearms was based on diminished customer demand for firearms in impacted local communities," Bluestone said.[/quote]

So, if we householders, who grow ever more short of disposable dollars, stop buying as many vacuum cleaners and tv sets, will Walmart be pulling all of those from the shelves, as well?

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Naran:

Yep. I believe 'em. I don't know anybody who has bought a gun there. I never have, though I've bought bows, airrifles, etc. and ammo there.

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Having purchased an 870 Remington shotgun at Wally world as a raffle item at a banquet/auction I can see why they don't sell very many. For one thing they are the cheapest of the cheap for that given vendor. For another the clerks gun knowwledge was nill and I had to show them how to disassemble to put in the box and the hoops one has to jump though to do all their paper work took almost two hours. I will not do that again no matter the price. It is no wonder they don't have the sales to keep them doing it. They don't want it anyway. They are trying to appease the tree huggers.

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Is far as I am concerned, they can sell or not sell what they please. We can buy gun's at Van Raymond's or Dick's or LL Bean or dozens of other places instead.

For my part I am just glad they still sell fresh tripe. (Seriouosly - I love the stuff, and you can't find it anwhere else.)

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Tripe???? YUK,but my mom and dad love it.I thought they were the only ones that did...LOL
The guns at Walmart are a joke anyway and the clerks know NOTHING about them so I could care less as long as they keep their CHEAP ammo...LOL :lol:

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Wal-Mart pulls guns from half of its stores in Maine

'IS' Wal*Mart" Being intolerant of The Othah Maine's historic culture of hunting while recognizing the 'Other Maine'?

That will bite them in the a*$.

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Consider that Maine has the second-highest per capita ownership of firearms in the country. Consider that a high percentage of firearms sold by Wal-Mart are factory refurbished &/or near-rejects. Consider that the Maine sporter is generally educated as to the tools of the trade and isn't willing to plunk down heavy bucks for marginal merchandise. There's a difference between cost and price. Our family maxim is, "Buy just as expensive as you can reasonably afford and you'll spend less in the long run." Of my various firearms, NONE came from Wally's.

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I've bought guns at Wal Mart. A .22 Plinkster semi-auto "for the kids" (right!) $89 new, a Mossberg 500 20g shotgun with a blond walnut stock for $150 new, and a NEF .410 breechloading single shot for $95. I have my eye on a stainless Savage .22 semi with a bull barrel for about $170.

There are some good deals there. The problem is it takes Wal mart at least an hour to do the NIC check.

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"About 20,000 fewer people purchase hunting licences"
Just because I didn't buy a license doesn't mean I've stopped hunting. :shock:

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The words on your coompuuter scren that myght be mispelt is not my fault.........my keyboard did it, I want a law against the sale of all keyboards in the state of Maine, and i'm going to sued the manufactuer of this key board for making me look stupid.

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I wouldn't buy a gun a Walmart, too small a selection and not good quality. Save your gun purchases for the local gunshop or Cabella's.

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I bought a couple of guns there. They were having an inventory reduction sale and I got a couple of nice stainless Ruger 10/22's for $140 each. Normally, I buy guns from a couple of local dealers, but I couldn't pass that deal up.

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Another good reason to NOT do business with these scumbags.

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"It's a huge disappointment. They are a place where a lot of sportsmen shop for everything from firearms to fishing gear. Increasingly, they're alienating people like us with decisions like that," said George Smith, executive director of the Sportsman's Alliance of Maine.

Hogwash! Wal-Mart makes decisons based upon sales. The stores that sell guns will continue to seel guns, the stores where that space can be more profitably utilzed will sell bras or whatever is profitable in that space.

The SPA of maine is a joke, they buy thier equiptment at LL Bean not Wal-Mart.

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[quote="Naran"]They say it's economically motivated, not politically; [/quote]

I agree. Wal-Mart like to get the best bang for the buck for floorspace.

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This is actually great news. We have finally identified at least one type of local shop which MalWart cannot squeeze out of business: the local gun shop.

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That would have been great news back when I owned a retail gun shop in Waterville. They moved in and low-balled us on everything new. We lost a ton of new gun and ammo sales when they came around. That's how the game works though so we never got too bent out of shape about it. We were able to thrive because we had a service department and they did not.

It was aggravating as hell though when people would bring in a Wal-Mart bag with their new scope, mounts, rings and a box with their Wal-Mart rifle and want us to assemble everything and bore-sight it for free. I was absolutely amazed at the number of people who thought it was our duty to provide free technical support for their Wal-Mart purchases. Seriously. When you added up what we charged to do that, and took into consideration that we did provide those services for free when people bought guns, scopes, etc from us, that Wal-Mart deal wasn't such a "deal" after all. Lots of people are quick to save that fast buck and give no thought to spending more in the long run than they would have by buying from a smaller retailer. I put a great value on service but most people tend not to unless they are caught in a bind.

All that said, I understand the financial aspect of what they are doing. If guns are not making the bottom line for them they should drop the product. Same with diapers, pork rinds or air conditioners. We have, use and buy a lot of guns here in Maine but people just may not be so interested in buying from a part-time employee who sometimes works in the gun department and sometimes works in the produce department. We eat lots of Lobster in Maine too but you will notice that the chain "Red Lobster" couldn't survive here. Too much local competition.

What I don't like is the political aspect of this. While it may not be a real factor in the decision, Sarah Brady, Josh Sugarrmann and Ethan Strimling will latch onto it as some kind of hard-fought victory. After all, truth plays little part (if any) in their twisted anti-American games and I don't like handing them "ammunition" to make it any easier for them.

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Big - that was my concern, as well. Even if the removal is purely one of dollar counts, it will be used by some as fodder for further pressure on gun owners in Maine.

Thanks for the input.

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It seems to me that the pro-gun advocates are making a political issue out of this, not Wal-Mart or the anti-gun crowd. If we are to have free enterprise, then businesses should be free to sell what they please. When Wal-Mart is prohibited from selling guns, I'll squawk. Until then, I think Second Amendment advocates have bigger fish to fry.

Wilson makes an excellent point. Some people only see the dollar, not quality or service. This should be good news to the smaller gun dealers and people who favor supporting small businesses over huge discount stores.

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I prefer using local people because of the service, but good service, especially gunsmithing, is getting harder to come by.

When I first started buying guns I really got the run around, I ended up buying my first gun from a fellow that charged me well over the manufacturer's stated retail price. I also took a rifle in to have him check it, it wasn't firing some ammo I had, and he gave it back to me a week later saying he fired the ammo in another gun and the problem was the ammo wouldn't fire. Turns out later he hadn't done that at all, the ammo was fine and the real problem was the gun wasn't going into battery. I was amazed that someone could lie to me that blatently.

I have also seen guns in shops listed for 150% of book price. You really need to know your guns in order to buy them. I was looking for a little used Heritage-type SA .22 revolver which is booked at about $125. For that price a local shop showed me a piece of junk and the guy behind the counter bathered about how .22 were great self-defense weapons "more people were killed with .22s than any other bullet" like I was looking for a self-defense weapon. I moved the cylinder back and forth and twised it gently and saw it wouldn't lock up. "This gun doesn't look very safe," I said. "It will lock up when you need it to" he told me. No thanks.

I have also brought balky autos to gunsmiths asking them to fix them. They will replace the ejector or extractor, give it back to me, and it won't have fixed the problem. I don't have any problem if a guy tells me :"It will cost too much money to fix this," but I don't like having my time wasted.

I was working up a replica 1861 Springfeld for reenacting and this "black power expert" couldn't give me the right caps or nipple for that gun, even though he swore up and down they were the right ones. Problem is, they didn't screw into the receiver. I took another nipple off the shelf the looked right, and it went right in. Then he showed me a gun he was fixing for a customer because "the nipple threads were stripped". The work looked terrible, there was a big blotch of weld around the nipple hole, and hammer marks all over it. I wondered if the reason the threads were stripped was because he forced the wrong nipple into it in the first place.

And, yes, I've had guys take my guns and do magic to them that made them work perfectly.

Gunsmithing is labor intensive, and you can't afford American labor any more. For every buck you give someone to do something, less than half ends up in his pocket so he can live. The rest goes to taxes, insurance, worker's comp, and other mandatory costs of business. For that reason the real experts are dying out and there is no one to replace them.

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I’d rather buy from a local shop anyway. I had a great experience buying from Kennebec Guns in Augusta. The owner spent an hour talking with me and discussing the various pros and cons of guns I was browsing. His advice helped me make the right purchase for my needs. Very happy with the gun, very happy with the service, and I got a good deal too. I’m lucky if I can even get waited on at Wal-Mart. I’ll be happy to see them go.

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We bought a chainsaw from a local dealer a few years back. My partner can barely sling a hammer without hitting his thumb, so the owner very patiently trained him in proper use and safety. We now use his services for all our small machine maintenance and repair. I would expect nothing less from a gun dealer. Wal-Mart is doing the right thing for themselves and for the community at large.

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Let me give a recent example. Yesterday I take my Rolling Blocks out to the gun range. The 7mm blasts gas back at me and blows a primer.

The fellow next to me shooting a Trapdoor comes over and says - "Looks like the firing pin hole is buggered!"

Sure enough, the hole was too large and oblong and slightly recessed like sometime tried to drill it out. Looking at my other gun, the hole should be small and crisp. The primer was blowing into the little recess.

"You could fix that" he says. "Just take a little Tig welder get some welding rod in there and drill out a new hole. Wouldn't heat up up long enough to anneal, and you'd be all set."

Makes sense. "Who could do that?" I say.

"I guess any good gunsmith could." he says.

"Yeah, like who?" I say.

"I dunno." he says .

"I don't know a single gunsmith that could or would do something like that." I say and we're staring at each other.

Now, sure, you'd want someone that knew what they were doing because you sure wouldn't want the repair piece to blow out, but who could do something like that?

When I was a kid it seems there were shops all over the place you could go to for little jobbing work like that and some guy in an apron who knew exactly what needed to be done. Now you can't even get your car fixed right.

Heck, you can't even get a pair of shoes repaired anymore.

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An example of their practices. I have bought a paint roller
with plastic container for storage there for some time. They work great keeping
roller sleeve moist between coats or days of painting. The are doing away with them.
Why not enogh sales for shelf space allocated to product.

I doubt Wally World is responding to anything but good business practices
and need to serve their customers while making a profit.

As to loss of gunsmithing shops etc. it would seem to be reasonable to believe
if hunting goes down in numbers sales of weapons will decrease along with associated
business. Gee, if I buy a weapon for defense and keep proficient in its' use , how
much can go wrong with it above normal cleaning needs etc.?

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Bruce Libby muses"
"how much can go wrong with it above normal cleaning needs etc.?"

Not much. Firearms routinely last a hundred years and are passed down from generation to generation. The Winchester 94 comes to mind. They have been around for 113 years. Many Springfield O3-A3's are around and the originals are 104 years old. Colt revolvers and many Smith's from that era are around.

When Australia passed its gun ban they estimate that about 15% of all firearms were turned in. I hope if it happens here there will be much fewer than those turned in here. We're going to need them.

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You should not worry about turning in firearms Big Brother doesn't know about.

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There's a shoe repair shop in Lewiston. I can't remember the name of the alley it's located on, but it's off Chestnut Street between Canal and Lisbon. Brought the sheath for my Leatherman in because it needed stitching. He stitched it and wouldn't take any money for it. Real craftsmanship, like in the old days.

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I love my Winchester 94.

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I am conflicted. I like the idea of a mass market store selling stuff the average person can afford but I hate the idea of buying Chinese, about all wallmart sells, and their firearms latest.

Bottom line...I avoid the place when I can.

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Wal-Mart pulls guns from half of its stores in Maine

Wal-Mart's just responding to market

Wednesday, February 21, 2007

Capitalism happens. That's our answer to sportsmen who are grousing about Wal-Mart's decision to stop selling guns at half of its Maine stores.
The move, says a Wal-Mart spokesman, was based on "diminished customer demand."

The stores will continue to sell ammunition, but without enough people buying guns it didn't make sense for certain stores to continue selling them.

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