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Punk
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Given the history of the Democratic Party with respect to (or lack thereof) the Second Amendment, it may be helpful to keep a close eye on any attempts to infringe on this most important of Rights.

This forum will serve to as a place to keep up to date of any and all news pertaining to the Second Amendment at all levels- Federal, State, and Local. Hopefully, our worst fears of a Democrat controlled Legislative and Executive branch concerning our Second Amendment rights will not come to light.

Please post any developments -- good or bad, fun or factual -- relating to the Second Amendment and firearms in this forum.

Of course, all AMG 'house rules' apply. :wink:

Cheers!

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This crap has already started... from Rep Rush who comes from same state as our messiah we have H.R.45. What did you expect from a communist government?

Text:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c111qMklmZ:e5709:

Highlight from the text:

`(36) The term `qualifying firearm'--

`(A) means--

`(i) any handgun; or

`(ii) any semiautomatic firearm that can accept any detachable ammunition feeding device; and

`(B) does not include any antique.'.

pmh
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I have my Dad's fairly high-quality reproduction of a Civil War musket. Does this qualify as "antique"? (And if not, since it's mechanically identical in every detail, why not?)

Punk
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MacPhly-- Could you please re-link the URL in your post? It returns a faulty page.

Thanks!

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Thank you to the editor for providing the subforum, and to Punk Freud and Bigshooter for assuming moderators duties.

A question about post etiquette... I know the general AMG "best practice" is to search and post to prior existing threads on the same subject. Is anyone thinking about maybe moving existing 2A discussion threads from the Public Square over here to maintain continuity with previous discussions, or would you prefer to start fresh threads here on those same topics? (I don't know how much work would be involved in finding and moving the posts.)

MacPhly
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This thread will not let me edit my post but here is a link.
MacPhly
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Sorry that didn't work either. go to the site...

http://thomas.loc.gov/

Click on bill search by number in the the pull down menu and type 'H.R. 45'

Punk
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Jeffr -

Very good questions. I certainly wouldn't mind other 2nd Amendment discussions consolidated here. There is already a 2nd Amendment Archive containing previous discussions.

Ultimately, that is the domain of the Editor.

re: Post editing - that's probably a simple configuration that can be changed. Will ask.

Thanks!

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woohoo Another place to list Obamas breaking of his Oath of Office, in which he swore to uphold the US Constitution. Should fill up fast. First things first. Join the NRA and sign up for the magazine, Americas First Freedom. Lots of information about Obama and the rest of the demoncrats efforts to destroy the Second Amendment.

Here is my prediction. Obama is destroying many of the means our intelligence agencies use to gather data to keep America safe from terrorist attack. Why would he/they do that?? So that when the next attack occurs, which they, the Dems, hope it will, they can proclaim Marshall Law and use our own military to disarm us.

http://www.nraila.org/OBAMA/

Lets see how many of his beliefs carry over to his Presidency. We can check em off as he tries to implement them nationally.

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I would like to make a suggestion and let's see if Punk and Scott are willing to go with it.

My experience has been that these "side forums" seldom get the traffic that "general forums" receive. They usually only attract those already in-tune with the subject, regardless of content. It leads to lots of chest pounding, all well intended, but preaching to the chior nontheless. We NEED to reach and educate the average voter, not just those who already understand the truth. Because of that I think there is a necessity for a little cross posting. I'll explain. If there is a new bill or current concern I think a short post should be placed at the general forum alerting people to the potential threat. In the post should be a link to the full thread here where we can discuss the real nuts & bolts without making peoples eyes gloss over is firearms and guns is not "their thing."

Good to go?

Punk
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Good points.

One device I've seen SKF do in many instances to post the content in the appropriate place (ie here), then, in the Public Forum, make a post with a short description and a link back to the post here. Then 'lock' the post in the public forum so no one can respond there but can respond here where appropriate.

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These are all good thoughts, but also require that Scott spend extra time "tending the sheep." I'm more in favor of general discussion amongst a general group of folks and let the chips fall or fly as they they might. Those who can't stand the heat of a given discussion need not become involved. (And you're going to get tub-thumpers and chest-thumpers from time to time, regardless.)

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Attempt to effectively ban Gun Shows

There's a current legal case in California we should all watch closely, as it's related to the liberal's desire to ban gun shows. This case just went before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, although a decision has not yet been announced. Here's a bit of the details:

[quote][b]Appeals court hears challenge to gun show ban at county fair [/b]
Ban passed in 1998; three-judge panel will issue written ruling at later date

A long-running challenge to Alameda County's ban on gun shows at the annual county fair in Pleasanton was back before a federal appeals court in San Francisco Thursday.

Gun show promoters Russell and Sallie Nordyke, of Willows in Glenn County, claim the ban violates their constitutional First Amendment right of free speech and their Second Amendment right to bear arms.

Their lawyer, Donald Kilmer, told the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, "We are asking to be allowed to hold the traditionally law-abiding gun shows held in the country fair for 10 years."

A three-judge panel took the case under submission after hearing an hour of arguments and will issue a written ruling at a later date.[/quote]

To read the full story, just click [url=http://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/show_story.php?id=1187]Here[/url]

[url=http://www.tsgunshows.com/news.htm]Click Here[/url] to learn more about the people/company working this case
to help protect our Constitutional Rights. If you feel inclined, it might be a nice idea to [b]drop them a "thank you" note by email[/b].

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National Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Bill Introduced

The NRA has just sent out some good news, and this sounds like something we should certainly contact our DC delegates and ask for their support. Here's part of their email message:

[quote][b]National Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Bill Introduced [/b]

Friday, January 23, 2009

U.S. Representatives Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) and Rick Boucher (D-Va.), recently introduced H.R. 197-- the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2009"--a bill that would provide national recognition for valid state Right-to-Carry licensees. The bill would allow any person with a valid carry permit or license issued by a state, to carry a concealed firearm in any other state if the permit holder meets certain criteria. In states that issue permits, a state's laws governing where concealed firearms may be carried would apply within its borders. [/quote]

For more information, just visit [url=www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=189]Here[/url].

Mike Beardsley
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Welcome!

Glad to have this forum up and running.

I'm not optimistic with Mr. Holder being nominated for AG, that and the fact my Senior Senator (Gramnesty) seems to be falling all over himself to be John McCain II reaching across the isle. Thankfully my Junior Senator (DeMint) is not so enamored.

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Welcome!

There are questions/points raised earlier in this thread that have been resolved for awhile. But there's no mention of that - until now!

* This forum has the same editing features as The Public Square. In brief, any registered AMGer can edit their posts. I neglected to set that up when this forum first went public, then fixed it when Punk Freud brought it to my attention.

* I've taken three steps to keep this forum in public view.

1. There is a "Sticky" on "The Public Square" inviting viewers to visit this forum.
2. There is a link on AMG's home page inviting viewers to visit this forum.
3. I check this forum for stories each day and, when appropriate, I link stories on the AMG's Front Page News thread:
http://www.asmainegoes.com/node/23848

As always, feel free to contact me anytime with questions/comments.

Best,
skf

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