The only chance a Republican has in the fall is to hold the base and hope the Democrat is strong.
Otherwise, King will slide to the right of the Republican nominee and walk away with the election. Like he did in 1994.
That's also how LePage won in 2010.
Mr Bennett was a strong supporter of Chandler Woodcocks run a few years back and many of Chandlers team are now supporting him. Additionally, many of the Maine Heritage types are on board with Mr Bennett.
Rick's professional expirience will prove to be a huge asset come November.
I know all the R candidates, and could happily mark my ballot for any of them. I can 100% guarantee that I don't agree with any one of them 100% of the time, but I can't understand the need to rip some candidates in order to advance your favored candidate. These are honorable people stepping up for what promises to be a major imposition on themselves and their families, with the odds against them. I fully expect every Democrat but Cynthia Dill to jump on the Angus bandwagon. He'll have the support of the media, as well as huge gobs of cash, and every Republican running knows this. The Democrat/Angus line will be the one they've used successfully for decades: "Republicans are mean evil wicked nasty creatures who rob from the poor to give to the rich and want the air and water poisoned and women dying in back alleys from coat-hanger-induced abortions." [All said in one breath.] If we don't spend time fighting that misrepresentation between now and the election, a Democrat/Angus will be in that seat. If someone believes you're the Antichrist, it won't matter how sensible your position is, or how qualified you are as a candidate. If a Republican speaks and no one listens, will he gain a single vote?
We need to be presenting our solutions to the state, the nation and the world's problems [which are demonstrably correct] and showing how the candidate of our choice will be best able to advance those solutions, not how the other person can't.
Angus Kings popularity will only decrease. He is trading on name recognition only and even that is thin. He isn't as connected to the business community as he once was as many of his allies have left the State. That was his base of support - the Southern Maine business community.
Remember when the Dems realized Libby didn't have a chance and headed for Elliot's camp? With one more week, I think we'd have had a different Governor. The Dems haven't forgotten that, and they'll have put together a plan for that contingency. There'll be 2 Dems running, one as a Dem and one as an "Independent". It's a simple analogy. Someone who's had Fords forever and has a picture of a child urinating on a Chevy on their rear window gets several bad Fords in a row. He isn't going to buy a Chevy and admit to his brother-in-law [who has a Chevy with a picture of a child urinating on a Ford on his rear window] that a Chevy is superior. He'll buy a Toyota. Angus is a Ford with Toyota emblems. I don't mean this as an indictment of Fords. [Before the Ford people descend on me, we own 2 Hyundais.]
I had a 55 Ford Ranch Wagon. After 50 years of Fords they told me my 2 year old Ford F-150 Crew Cab wasn't worth much. I figured they were right and went across the street and bought a GMC. Now I'm my second GMC. No regrets.
Our problem is that the establishment is unwilling to move away from the John Lindsay, Bob Dole, Mike Bloomburg, John McCain, Snowe, Collins etc. model that made Maine Republicans so comfortable as a minority for four decades. I'm worried that in their habit of trying to please Democrats they have blown their chance to be a real majority.
Maine Senate hopefuls scramble to raise money
April 22, 2012|David Sharp, Associated Press
....Snowe’s abrupt exit from the Senate race...left candidates...to raising money needed for the primary, now just two months away.
To be a primary contender, Republicans...need...$125,000 to $150,000 — a level reached by several candidates...but... grass-roots campaign will be more critical...so many candidates and a relatively short window between now and June 12, said state GOP Chairman Charlie Webster.
It should be an interesting race one way or the other.
I like Poliquin at this point, though could be swayed.
I echo Mike's point that I would vote for any of them over Angus or the Dem.
Though the gist of this thread is who can win out of the six in November
Whoever wins the Primary will have a LOT of out of state money being thrown at them.
So money is likely not the problem.
It comes down to likability, name recognition and work ethic.
I think the darkhorse in the campaign is Deb Plowman.
But not one mention of her here, but she's the only candidate who lives north of what? Lewiston/Auburn.
Bennett is in Norway/So. Paris. West of L/A.
Schneider is in Durham. South of L/A.
Poliquin is in the midcoast. Southeast of L/A.
D'amboise is in Lisbon. Southeast of L/A
Summers is southern Maine where they don't even know where L/A is.
Plus she's the only woman. Which in the primary has to be worth a few points all by itself.
So who could win? I think there are 3 or 4 of the six who could win with a similar outcome to the Governor's race of two years ago.
I started out supporting Summers but I really liked Schneider after hearing him speak recently. Undecided now.
Mr Bennett lives in the Oxford Hills yet is very connected to people in Southern Maine because he works in Portland. He already has the support of many conservatives and will do very well south of the volvo line.
Money is important in a short primary race- Mr Bennett raised 100k in less than a month. I like all the people in this race but if they didnt raise over 50k they ought to consider dropping out at this point, they wont have money to compete.
Does anyone really know which candidates paid to gather signatures...given the short time frame and needs, I'd be surprised if there were not more who did so...
My choice - Schneider or Bennett, easy for me to support
Summers - lukewarm but ok
D'Amboise - least appelaing to me
Poliquin has strong following in Central Maine too, as he grew up in Waterville.
Of course one could say is there a reason to know where L/A is?
Bruce as someone who grew up in Auburn and has owned a home in Lewiston for over 20 years, ouch! I luv my city!
Once again, the question is who stands the best chance in November? Not who will win the Primary.
Two totally different things.
I went with my son to the YC GOP meeting last night. This was his second GOP gathering. Bennet, Poloquin, Summers all spoke, and Martin Sheehan spoke for Schneider. My son ascertained the following, his words, not mine.
Bennet, very polished and excellent speaker seemed like he was re- living the past though.
Poloquin, bull dog...barks and I have a feeling he bites too, he would rattle a lot of cages in DC and enjoy doing it.
Summers, seemed like a really nice family man and has an advantage because he is so tall, I think he would be more of the same in DCthough.
Schnieder, impressive background I'de like to meet him in person to see if I thought he was the real deal because he sounds great.
When all was said and done he ranked his choices in this order. Poloquin, Schneider, Bennet, Summers.
I myself endorsed Poloquin. I can tell you I am very content to support any of them for the general and feel fortunate that we have such great choices. There are 4 votes coming from this house...not sure who will get them in the primary...one of them will get all 4 in the general!
Principle and loyalty are huge with me. I was there two years ago when Scott D'Amboise stood up and announced he was running as a Republican for the U. S. Senate because we need a candidate who supports our principles and platform.
Deb Plowman has supported our principles even in the lean years when it was hard to find a principle in the platform. She has done great things for Maine families as she has battled the corrupt DHHS.
Bruce Poloquin is doing a dynamite job as state treasurer. He could shine the bright light of truth on some of the spending scams going on in DC.
The others also running have too much baggage to be considered seriously.
To say the others have "too much baggage" is just false. Schneider and Bennett have not recently been declared to be in violation of the Maine Const nor have they taken gross advantage of the tree growth program to avoid paying property taxes. How can Poliquin rail against Angus and loan guarantees for wind when he is also guilty of abusing a government program for personal gain? That is baggage. Pledge to uphold the Constitution-oops, a few problems with that...Poliquin will not be elected in the general-take that to the bank.
So are you supporting conservative Deb Plowman,
or that inexperienced lying simpleton Scott D'Amboise?
Poliquin will not be elected in the general-take that to the bank.
Kenny, please, share the inside scoop. You are stating an opinion as fact. Fill us in.
The last time you and I had a similar exchange, you were telling me about how Baldacci was going to hold the Dems, keep Angus in check and pave the way for an R while I was predicting the how and why Baldacci was not going to run. My opinion on Poliquin is just that: opinion. It is however a fact that voters will not warm up to the guy, what evidence suggests otherwise? If he lacks primary appeal, that will not magically change for the better in the general.
Good grief. Kenny Beck is bouncing off the walls like a ball in a squash court. Try to focus, Ken.
The purpose of the tree growth program is to entice people to grow trees to support our resource based economy. This is not hard to figure out. Just read the l;aw.
Is that what Poliquin was doing with his trees/land in Georgetown?
Kenny did he break the law? You may not like it but he is following the law put in place by liberals.
Did he commercially harvest any wood? The purpose of the program is to apply current use tax rates to land use to grow wood for harvest. Does anyone know if he harvested any wood on his 10 acres?
Actually the ability to transfer what is doing in Maine, by a person in a position,remember not a generally elected one, doing things we like in an appealing manner to the national stage is not necessarily a sure thing.
The circumstances surrounding the person and conditions of serving in DC do not always translate into successful outcomes.
It is kind of ironic that a good example of this is RP well liked by his constituents, they elect him and like him,how many of his stands on issues have become successful ?
I am not so sure Kenny is to far off base.
Ironically we have three candidates running in primary which this could apply to.
I have no preference at this point as I haven't decided who I will vote for.
I think "Rick" has made up his mind. I wonder what personal insult either real or imagined transpired between those two?
I'll be sticking with D'amboise for the primary. I believe Poliquin has some issues to consider, one he is a Harvard man, two he has been in politics for sometime, three, he seems to have some issues with the second amendment. Between those three I'd expect him to be somewhat of a conformist, meaning he will fit in all too well with the DC crowd. I'll take others word that he may be a good number cruncher, but once some get to DC, all bets are off.
Fourth, I saw a recent ad and he doesn't strike much of a dynamic figure, and most of us should know by now that appearances in these beauty contests mean quite a bit to the electorate. But in a debate he might do well, I just have to wonder considering the three issues whether he would make much of a difference in DC. I know King won't.
Isn't Poliquin the official Ron Paul candidate? There were several Ron Paul people in my area collecting signatures for him, and only him, last month when everyone was frantically trying to make the ballot.
I guess I didn't get the memo, you assume that us Ron Paulers all march in lock step, just like tea partiers do not.
I'd be interested in learning about Schneider and Plowman, I firmly believe that what is wrong in DC, is that we try and elect people that will fit in. We want exactly the opposite. We need people that will buck the crowd, who belong to no clubs, like Harvard. We need men and women of modest principled backgrounds, the middle class, in the Senate. Olie and Susan may have been that at one point. .
Isn't Poliquin the official Ron Paul candidate?
I don't know, I still haven't been notified on who to support.
There were several Ron Paul people in my area collecting signatures for him, and only him,
Why would someone who supports Poliquin collect signatures for someone else? Why would I collect signatures for someone who has different beliefs than I do?