Wind power: Buyers' Remorse on Vinalhaven

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Islander
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I wonder how much fishing

I wonder how much fishing ground will be lost if this happens, but hey at least King, Baldacci along with GE will make some money. Nuclear is a better option IMO

thejohnchapman
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Islander: I don't know of

Islander:

I don't know of anybody who seriously thinks that wind power, in its current state of technical advancement, is USUALLY cost effective. I have heard of several cases where the tax breaks and subsidies were enough to make it cost effective to create fake generators - tower and blades without generator guts.

The argument (which is as difficult to refute as support) is that wind power will need a certain period of subsidized development to eventually become cost effective. Also, "cost effectiveness" depends on something like current prices. Raise the cost of crude to $200 per barrel and wind becomes more cost effective.

So does nuclear.

Islander
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I would think that the

I would think that the footprint of a nuke plant would be a heck of a lot smaller than a wind farm of equal output.

thejohnchapman
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If 100% of the facility is on

If 100% of the facility is on the owner's land, what do I care about the footprint? How is "footprint" defined -- tower size? Tower Size plus setback? Also, a wind farm is ridiculously easy to decommission. An accident is 100% onsite with a VERY modest setback. Security is almost unnecessary. Each has its plusses and minuses.

I personally think nukes are proven tech, and wind wouldn't be viable at current expenses and tech without subsidy by we-know-who. We should, IMHO, make political decisions about power based on a realistic assessment of plusses and minuses, without a lot of junk science and NIMBY influence. Somebody will always be willing to tell you what you must do with your land (without buying it themselves).

Islander
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Well since the offshore

Well since the offshore windfarm is on public land it does make a difference as compared to a mountaintop. Here are some comparisons http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech-mainmenu-30/energy/788. How many wind turbines does it take to equal the output of one Nuke plant, a lot.

thejohnchapman
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"offshore windfarm is on

"offshore windfarm is on public land"

Don't they float 'em?

Naran
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Vinalhaven residents will get


Vinalhaven residents will get day in court over wind turbine noise

By Heather Steeves, BDN Staff
Posted April 05, 2012, at 12:46 p.m.

VINALHAVEN, Maine — Neighbors... get a hearing in court to see whether Fox Island Wind’s plan to quiet its turbines is stringent enough.

...15 people...filed a lawsuit in July 2011 ...to nullify ...(DEP_... order against the wind power project developer. ..group wants the court to institute... earlier version of the order developed by DEP staff that imposed tougher compliance requirements.

Fox Islands Wind asked the court to throw the case out but Kennebec County Superior Court Justice Michaela Murphy ruled ...case will not be dismissed.

[url=http://bangordailynews.com/2012/04/05/news/midcoast/vinalhaven-residents...

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