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Pine tree zones

By TOM BELL, Portland Press Herald Writer

"Sen. Chandler Woodcock, R-Farmington, also a candidate for governor, submitted a bill that would have expanded the Pine Tree Zone to the entire state. While the bill died in committee last session, Baldacci is now pitching the idea to expand the zone statewide for certain sectors, such as manufacturing and research and development firms."

[url]http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/business/stories/060611pinetree.shtml[...

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[quote]Baldacci is now pitching the idea to expand the zone statewide for certain sectors, such as manufacturing and research and development firms.[/quote]

It appears as though the Governor is taking a que from Chandler. Who says his policies can't win broad appeal?

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This is why I am voting WOODCOCK FOR GUVNAH!

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Woodcock has it right. The whole state should be a Pine Tree Zone.

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Yeah, no real estate or sales taxes and we get to subsidize them. The need for Pine Tree Zones should just go away.

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I am surprised that Chandler would be an advocate of corporate welfare.

The Pine Tree Zones should be eliminated along with the circuit breaker and homestead programs

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The town still gets the property tax. Local property taxpayers don't have to make up the differenence. The difference comes from Augusta. Yes, it's still a tax, but all the burden doesn't land in one spot. Many states have incentives to get business to locate there. It has a huge beneficial effect on the economy as a whole.

Those who oppose pine tree incentives would rather the business face large penalties for locating in a depressed area of Maine, or anywhere in Maine for that matter. Pssst. It isn't sprawl when somebody starts a business in Maine. It is healthy growth.

Anonymous
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Pine Tree Zones are a joke. The MST article correctly noted that political pressure often made the difference between an area getting the designation or not.

If I was a real cynical SOB, I'd say that Baldacci set up the program in order to win votes in the normally-conservative rural areas. But I wouldn't do that. :lol:

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They only work if they are applied state wide in my view..

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[quote="Steven Scharf"]I am surprised that Chandler would be an advocate of corporate welfare.

The Pine Tree Zones should be eliminated along with the circuit breaker and homestead programs

Steven Scharf
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Steven,

Do you understand the vicious battle the State of Maine is up against with other states trying to attract businesses, which create jobs? These other states throw everything at companies, including the kitchen sink, to land jobs, increase their tax base, and grow their economies. They understand the prize. I have to hand it to Massachusetts, they understand this as well. Maine leadership does not.

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[/quote]Maine leadership does not.[/quote]

Your statement is our key problem within Augusta. As one state employee that has to live with this problem every work day, I hope our next governor will do a Major House Cleaning. Enough is enough.

Mark T.

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State-wide PINE TREE ZONES is an idea championed by liberal Democrats like Stan Gerzofsky and Richardson; I thought Woodcock was a conservative and as such was opposed to the corporate welfare state. Democrats have turned the original concept into a slush fund for their districts and 'favored' companies/unions. Surely, Woodcock must be aware of how this concept designed to assist really distressed regions has been prostituted to Democrat politics ....or maybe not?

Even poor ole' Brunswick, has gotten a quasi Pine Tree Designation for NASB thanks to Richardson, Edmonds & Gerzofsky.

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I see back in 2006, Roger Ek

I see back in 2006, Roger Ek supported expanding corporate welfare statewide. I wonder if he still does today.

A ceramic slip-casting production is actually perfect to locate in a high unemployment , low income area. It can include a retail store as well and become a destination shopping area, which can then create a basis for other retailers to set up shop.

However, I do not believe that the Pine Tree Zone benefits the overall economy and culture of Maine. The expansion of the Pine Tree Zone state wide transforms its original intention- an intention based in a belief system that government can mandate human character- of course it doesn't . Whatever benefits are created purportedly to benefit impoverished areas will inevitably be co-opted by other factions and then justified as "good for the whole".

I do not believe that government manipulation of the economy is ever good for the whole. It ends up exactly like Maine is today - the worst place to do business- a place when a small elite decides who be launched on the fast track to wealth and who will not- but get to pay for it any way..

What benefits the whole is a fair and equitable business environment without a favored and unfavored sector.

I have faith in humanity not in a government overlord society. I believe that there are those who would be motivated to invest in high unemployment, low income areas for both economic advantages and because they want to do good for the larger society because that is in their character- and also because they might love the work process, as I do.

The economic advantages for a ceramic slip casting production in low income, high unemployment areas are lower rent and an accessible labor pool. We would love to offer all the advantages that the corporate welfare culture can easily afford over those in the unfavored economic sector- but unlike the "innovative economy" that with all the government perks enabling it to offer those extended employee benefits, such as being exempted from 80% of payroll tax and 100% if income and corporate tax, we have to develop our business to get there through a well run team who values the fascinating ceramic work process over the perks and work process offered by 100 jobs "created." by the Small Enterprise Growth Fund in processing bills for the health care industry. I know the latter works better for some but not for all and there should be options but the Pine Tree Zone will diminish those options.

The Pine Tree Zone includes all manufacturing but that was probably the original language to which our House of Lords added "including precision manufacturing", which adds no legal value what so ever - but does give a hint as to what the next amendment for this bill might look like- "manufacturing, including" will be crossed out so that it will say "precision manufacturing" only- and then there can be legal battles over the interpretation of"precision", and our House of Lords can cross out "precision" to be replaced with "high tech" to conform with the parameters of the legislature's chosen economic sector- for which bill after bill after bill is written to benefit. The added language has no legal value but for those with experience with attempting to relate to our government managed economy- it describes the culture that will be making the decisions and says what they are really aiming at. Waste of time for all others unless there is a special in with the in crowd.

If the legislature's vision is achieved Maine will have been fundamentally transformed into another mile of the ubiquitous megatropolis.

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I forgot to update the status

I forgot to update the status of The Pine Tree Zone, the legislature recently and silently with very little fanfare extended corporate welfare state wide. Its a done deal now and if you didn't hear about it within the window of opportunity to challenge this act- tough luck! The legislature probably suspects that there would be strong opposition to this expansion of corporate welfare - that's why they kept mum about it. Whose side are they on?

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