Wow ,from the Baltimore Sun.......is hell freezing over?

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Wow ,from the Baltimore Sun.......is hell freezing over?

Perhaps one of the best editorials ever written!

The Baltimore Sun” is definitely not known as a Conservative newspaper, so this very well written assessment of the situation in USA comes as something of a surprise.. Here it is:

The Black Dilemma

"For almost 150 years the United States has been conducting an interesting experiment. The subjects of the experiment: black people and working-class whites.

The hypothesis to be tested: Can a people taken from the jungles of Africa and forced into slavery be fully integrated as citizens in a majority white population?

The whites were descendants of Europeans who had created a majestic civilization. The former slaves had been tribal peoples with no written language and virtually no intellectual achievements. Acting on a policy that was not fair to either group, the government released newly freed black people into a white society that saw them as inferiors. America has struggled with racial discord ever since.

Decade after decade the problems persisted but the experimenters never gave up. They insisted that if they could find the right formula the experiment would work, and concocted program after program to get the result they wanted. They created the Freedmans Bureau, passed civil rights laws, tried to build the Great Society, declared War on Poverty, ordered race preferences, built housing projects, and tried midnight basketball

Their new laws intruded into peoples lives in ways that would have been otherwise unthinkable. They called in National Guard troops to enforce school integration. They outlawed freedom of association. Over the protests of parents, they put white children on buses and sent them to black schools and vice-versa. They tried with money, special programs, relaxed standards, and endless hand wringing to close the achievement gap. To keep white backlash in check they began punishing public and even private statements on race. They hung up Orwellian public banners that commanded whites to Celebrate Diversity! and Say No to Racism. Nothing was off limits if it might salvage the experiment.

Some thought that what W.E.B. DuBois called the Talented Tenth would lead the way for black people. A group of elite, educated blacks would knock down doors of opportunity and show the world what blacks were capable of.

There is a Talented Tenth. They are the black Americans who have become entrepreneurs, lawyers, doctors and scientists. But ten percent is not enough. For the experiment to work, the ten percent has to be followed by a critical mass of people who can hold middle-class jobs and promote social stability. That is what is missing.

Through the years, too many black people continue to show an inability to function and prosper in a culture unsuited to them. Detroit is bankrupt, the south side of Chicago is a war zone, and the vast majority of black cities all over America are beset by degeneracy and violence. And blacks never take responsibility for their failures. Instead, they lash out in anger and resentment.

Across the generations and across the country, as we have seen in Detroit, Watts, Newark, Los Angeles, Cincinnati, and now Ferguson, rioting and looting are just one racial incident away. The white elite would tell us that this doesn't mean the experiment has failed.. We just have to try harder. We need more money, more time, more understanding, more programs, and more opportunities.

But nothing changes no matter how much money is spent, no matter how many laws are passed, no matter how many black geniuses are portrayed on TV, and no matter who is president. Some argue its a problem of culture, as if culture creates peoples behavior instead of the other way around. Others blame white privilege.

But since 1965, when the elites opened Americas doors to the Third World, immigrants from Asia and India people who are not white, not rich, and not connected have quietly succeeded. While the children of these people are winning spelling bees and getting top scores on the SAT, black youths are committing half the country's violent crime, which includes viciously punching random white people on the street for the thrill of it that has nothing to do with poverty.

The experiment has failed. Not because of white culture, or white privilege, or white racism. The fundamental problem is that American black culture has evolved into an un-fixable and crime ridden mess. *They do not want to change their culture or society, and expect others to tolerate their violence and amoral behavior. They have become socially incompatible with other races by their own design, not because of the racism of others - but by their own hatred of non-blacks.*

Our leaders don't seem to understand just how tired their white subjects are with this experiment. *They don't understand that white people aren't out to get black people; they are just exhausted with them. They are exhausted by the social pathologies, the violence, the endless complaints, and the blind racial solidarity, the bottomless pit of grievances, the excuses, and the reflexive animosity* The elites explain everything with racism, and refuse to believe that white frustration could soon reach the boiling point."---

"You can't legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government can't give to anybody anything that the government doesn't first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they don't have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."

Ian Duncan
The Baltimore SunN

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Can't find reference to this

Can't find reference to this at Baltimore Sun, suspect hell remains warm. A Link?, I'd love to see the comments section.

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I saw this on line about

I saw this on line about three years ago.

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If you believe a quarter of

If you believe a quarter of what's in this piece of bullshit, you are not only a racist, but a gullible one, which is sad. For everyone.

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Actually Matt I was a little

Actually Matt I was a little taken aback that it was actually published,hence ...is hell freezing over?

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matt ,please tell my mixed

matt ,please tell my mixed race step children and colored cousins that johnny hates black people... for me would you. You need to stop fooling around with those hot pockets ,it's only leaving you capable of painting with that broad liberal brush........

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I remember having a

I remember having a conversation with two black gentlemen in Baltimore in June of 16.
Anedotal yes,but they expressed virtually the same opinion of the citizens causing the problem in Baltimore.
Their words were essentially the same of as the opinion in this article.

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johnw,

johnw,

That article is written with the broadest of brushes, dipshit.

Would you feel comfortable and justified in giving it to a person of color and saying, "here is my opinion of black people"?

Yes? You're a racist and a tool.

No? Great. So shut the F up, and stop referring to BS like this like it's got great points. Perhaps you can be redeemed.

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After a short time it is

After a short time it is apparent Smegma and Smegma jr .have retuned with their charm abilities in full bloom.

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So that's a yes, doofus?

So that's a yes, doofus?

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matt if you are an example of

matt if you are an example of the redeemed I'll pass , thank you.

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So is that a yes or a no? Or

So is that a yes or a no? Or are you too chickenshit to answer?

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Matt you old sweet talker ...

Matt you old sweet talker ........try to figure it out for yourself..........if you can.
Freedom of speech obviously only applies to liberal columnists. And just because an individual(me)l posts an article doesn't necessarily dictate that they believe it to be the gospel, maybe they just want to see what the reaction is........Obviously I got one from you , not that I expected anything different from you, it's like pulling the string on a Chatty Cathy doll you know exactly what it is going to say.....

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Pastor James David Manning

Pastor James David Manning begs black men to step up to the plate and raise their children rather than abandoning them. Manning denounces the black on black violence fueled by but not limited to the drug epidemic in this land.

Manning speaks harsh words frequently citing that blacks only know how to tear down and destroy, they have no great cities of antiquity to boast of, no empires.

I don't know what makes him an authority on black history, but he puts himself out there as a critic of the black culture also.

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Johnw, you doofus, usually

Johnw, you doofus, usually when someone says something is "one of the best editorials ever written" and "a very well written assessment of the situation in the USA," they like what's in it.

Don't play stupid. You don't have to.

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Let us all remember a

Let us all remember a alledged stupid Doofus is on any scale ,by any criteria , is preferable to being smegma.

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Sorry matt when I copied and

Sorry matt when I copied and pasted that, that is what the article said,not my words.....like I said I don't hate colored people or gay people, or immigrants or people in general.......hell matt I don't even hate you.....Maybe I do hate people who are constantly trying to destroy this country by not having any room for other people's opinions or beliefs,........left or right.......After many years of managing and working with all sorts of individuals for a living I've become fairly tolerant of differences of opinion, lifestyle and beliefs...... It doesn't work out well if you don't learn to live and let live along the way.........All that said it doesn't mean I don't enjoy a good dust up......

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The article itself makes

The article itself makes several assumptions that I simply don't believe anymore.

I don't believe those who set up the Great Society wanted to lift minorities out of poverty. I believe they intended to institutionalize that poverty, to insure an ensnared voting pool for the indefinite future. Providing sustenance while simultaneously making it virtually impossible to escape that state is the method. Destroying education, especially in the inner cities, eliminates most routes of escape. A few tokens, like sports stars or media stars, getting rich never affects the majority but still lulls everyone into complacency. Throwing away humans they don't care about to get long term power was their intention, and the result as well. Anyone who challenged that plan was ground into dust. Anyone who warned of the future results was similarly hounded into silence. So it continues to this day.

It was not an end to oppression, it was a conversion to a different form of oppression: dependence on the state.

Those who instituted this plan didn't stop being oppressors. They just use different methods.

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The actual article didn't

The actual article didn't come from the Baltimore Sun... it's from the American Renaissance Blog.

http://www.amren.com/news/2014/09/ten-percent-is-not-enough/

http://www.snopes.com/politics-soapbox-black-dilemma/

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